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Wed-Mar 10 2010
Lost - Ep #606 - Sundown
Index:
Terms:
- T1: The timeline where flight 815 crashed on the Island.
- T2: The "flash-sideways" timeline where the Losties continue on to LA and the Island
is underwater.
- Jack2, Kate2, Claire2. etc2: Characters in T2. T1 characters have no suffix.
- Flocke: The impersonation of Locke, presumably by the Man in Black, aka Esau, Jacob's
Nemesis, The Smoke Monster.
Scene By Scene
All dialogue from the
Lostpedia "Sundown" Transcript
-T2 LA Suburb/Omer2's House-
- In the language of flowers, yellow rose =
"forgive and forget"
- Sayid2's reflection in Nadia's door is split - half is clear, half is black/obscured.
- Sayid2 says he does translating for oil company contracts, which doesn't explain why
he has an Iranian passport.
- Sayid2 's brother is in dry cleaning, which indeed can be adventurous if you borrow from
load sharks.
- Uncle Sayid2 brought boomerangs: foreshadowing of things sent away that come back.
-T1 Temple-Dogen's Office -
-T1 Flocke and Claire -
- Why not just have Claire clear the ash away?
- Nice lack of sentries/lookouts - Other Security SUCKS. (#2)
- Flocke didn't really answer Claire's question about why she had to go to the Temple
- Flocke: "I always do what I say" - Flocke's promised Claire that she'll get Aaron back.
Doing this would be challenging, as Aaron is off-Island with his grandmother. This is a
opportunity to see if Flocke lies.
-T2 LA-Omer2's House -
- Sayid2 is sleeping on the couch, which implies that he doesn't live in LA.
-T1 Temple -
- MILES: "They... they tried to save you, but... you were dead, man.
For two hours. Trust me when- when you sat up they were just as surprised as the rest of us.
So whatever brought you back, it wasn't them." - Sayid might take this as independent
evidence that something bad did happen to him.
- Claire just waltzes in the front door. Other Security SUCKS (#3)
- Why does Dogen obey Claire and speak to her in English?
Is she still a Candidate, despite being Claimed/Infected?
- Claire: "..maybe you should send someone he won't kill"
- Who are the people Flocke won't kill - Candidates? Is it won't or can't?
- What's with all the back and forth, Claire goes in-send somebody out business?
Why couldn't Claire just deliver Flocke's message instead of Dogen sending somebody to
talk to Flocke who then comes back and talks to Dogen? Was Flocke hoping Dogen would
send Sayid?
- Why did Dogen want Jack and Hurley? Was he going to send them to meet with
Flocke?
- Did Jacob bring Jack and Hurley to the Lighthouse so that they wouldn't be sent to
talk to Flocke?
- Jack and Hurley are missing. Other Security SUCKS. (#4)
- Dogen and Sayid are alone, AGAIN. Other Security SUCKS (#5)
- Dogen kept the knife buried in a flower pot.
- Dogen describes Flocke as an "angry man". Is he angry at being trapped, or is
their something more?
- DOGEN: "For years, he has been trapped, but now Jacob is gone,
he's free. This man will not stop until he has destroyed every living thing on this island.
He is evil incarnate."
Wow, that's a pretty clear statement.
Does "every living thing" mean animals and plants, not just people? Why would Flocke
want to do this?
- Why should Sayid believe Dogen?
-T2 LA-Omer2's House/Hospital -
- Sayid2 says he has to go to Toronto. He's lying,
because every time a character in Lost
refers to Canada they lie. Ethan, Kate, Sawyer, Anthony Cooper, and Ben have all lied about Canada.
- Big Red backpack
- Nadia2's bright Red blouse.
- Jack2 passes Sayid2 and Nadia2 in the hospital hallway.
- Omer2 has a punctured lung. This would indicate either a stabbing or a severe beating that
broke a rib. Either way, this is a bad business move for a loan-shark. If Omer2 dies or can't
work it's more likely they won't get paid.
-T1 Jungle/Temple Kate/Sayid/Miles-
- "What'd I miss?", "Ask Miles" - I REALLY like how the Losties are at least trying to talk and share information.
- That Kate said "Thank you" to the Other who opened the courtyard door stood out to me, maybe because
it's so normal and gracious.
- Miles is playing solitare.
- It was nice of Miles to give Kate a simple explanation for what Sawyer did.
- I love it, Kate quicky asks Miles what's going on and Miles tells her. This would have
been unthinkable in seasons 1-5.
- Miles thinks Claire is "still hot". I worry about him.
-T1 Jungle Sayid/Flocke -
- That's a badass knife. I wonder if there's something special about it.
- Screenshot of Knife
- Flocke was out and about as Smokey again.
- Flocke said "Hello Sayid" before he was stabbed. I don't think that made Sayid's attack
futile. I think Dogen warned against Flocke speaking because of Flocke's persuasiveness.
- The blade actually went into Flocke. I wonder if the bullets in the Statue's foot went
through Flocke and flattened on the stone behind him.
- No Blood
- How does Flocke know that Dogen tried to have someone else kill Sayid?
- I think Flocke is right, Dogen expected Flocke to kill Sayid. But is Sayid still a Candidate, and
therefore someone Flocke can't kill? Not to mention the old question of "can't" vs. "shouldn't"-
was Dogen trying to get Flocke to break the rules?
- Flocke doesn't address the whole "Evil Incarnate" issue.
-
LOCKE: "...Sayid, if you'll do this for me... what if I told you that you could have anything you wanted.
What if I said you can have anything in the entire world?
SAYID: "I would tell you that the only thing I ever wanted, died in my arms,
and I'll never see it again."
LOCKE: "What if you could?"
The rest of Flocke and Sayid's conversation occurs off-camera, and I hesitate to be
overly legalistic, but it seems odd to me that Flocke never comes right out and offers "anything
in the whole wide world". He keeps prefacing his statements with "What if", which to me makes
his offers hypothetical rather than actual. In other words, he never comes right out and says
"Do X for me and I will give you Y"; it's more like "If I were able to give you Y, would you
be willing to do X?". As they say, the Devil is in the details.
- Is there any connection between Flocke's seeming offer of "anything you wanted" and
Ben's story of the "Magic Box"?
And yes, I still want to know how Anthony Cooper ended up on the Island.
-T1 Temple Sayid/Kate -
-T2 LA Sayid2/Omar2/Keamy2 -
- It's Omar2 (not to be confused with Omer2), last
seen being blown up by a grenade in T1.
- Omer2 speaks Arabic.
- Keamy2 does a good Christopher Walken impression without being too obvious about it.
-
Keamy2 is wearing a big shiny watch-did he get it from Jin2? Was it intended for Keamy2?
- I can't fault Sayid2 for killing Keamy2 and his thugs-they clearly represented a mortal threat
to him and his family.
- Jin2 pled in Korean for Sayid2 not to kill him.
-T1 Temple Sayid/Dogen/Kate/Claire... -
- Sayid is allowed to meet with Dogen, alone and armed, Other Security SUCKS (#6).
- Dogen's recruitment story is interesting, but it didn't answer Sayid's question.
We still don't know why Dogen wanted someone else to kill Sayid.
- Other people have theorized that part of Dogen's deal with Jacob is that
Dogen follow some rules, like not killing Candidates.
- Dogen didn't deny that he tried to have other people kill Sayid twice.
- Baseball floating up echoes the baseball falling in the earlier fight scene.
- Wait, Dogen was keeping Flocke out? How? (no answer). What about the ash? (no answer).
If Dogen was keeping everyone alive, why did the Others let someone they knew to be Claimed/Infected
kill him? (no answer).
- Of course, once Flocke has minions the ash doesn't work so well as a defense.
- Ilana seems to always refer to the Losties by their last names.
- Smokey is lit from within by flashes.
- I think we can safely conclude that Sayid has gone over to the dark side.
- Miles tells Sun that Jin is alive.
- How did Kate and Claire get out of the pit?
- Claire knows about the Flocke/Smokey connection.
- No sign of Sawyer this episode. Is he off on a mission?
- Flocke, Claire and Sayid shared a very creepy smile.
- Flocke and minions aren't staying at the Temple. Why did he attack it?
Questions/Theories/Hairbrain Predictions
I don't know why they introduced the Temple only to ravage it a few episodes in
or why the Temple was guarded by a 20th century businessman who chose to dress
like a medieval samurai (Halloween costume maybe?) or where all these people
were a few short days ago when the Smoke Monster was haunting Ben in the Temple
basement, since they've made a rather large point out of the fact that, until
this episode, the Smoke Monster couldn't get into the Temple.
Source:
Fishbiscuitland
OtherSayid's story is different from the OtherStories that we've watched in
recent weeks. He didn't contemplate his reflection in a clear mirror, as his
friends had done. Instead, there was only a passing glance of his distorted
image captured unexpectedly in Nadia's front door glass.
OtherSayid was an interrogator for the Revolutionary Guard, just like Original
Sayid. He was still fearsome and violent. Still a passionate lover separated
from the one he loves. There were no radical departures from his story as we
knew it, except of course that he'd apparently manipulated Nadia into becoming
the wife of his brother, and it's unclear if the two had ever bonded in a
torture cell, the way we'd seen them do. Unlike the previous Other-flashes,
Sayid's story seems much the same. He is still an assassin. He doesn't rise
above. He doesn't conquer his demons. He doesn't solve his problems. We can tell
that OtherLOST isn't going to be merely a mirror story of redemption, because
there isn't any redemption there for Sayid.
Source:
Fishbiscuitland
# Temple security leaves much to be desired. Claire -- the same wingnut who
spent the last three years picking off Others -- knocked on the front door unimpeded.
And Kate walked right in as well. Next week, Rose and Bernard will pop by for mojitos and backgammon
( ... I'm thinking that'll be cancelled, though).
# Speaking of the Temple ... Dogen's death allowed Flocke to enter, right?
So what's the point of the ash? We saw Bram use ash alone to keep smokey at bay
(temporarily), but I'm not getting the Dogen connection.
Does the temple elder carry some sort of anti-smokey mojo?
# ANJATH? -- Anyone Notice Jack At The Hospital? Figured I'd get that out of the way.
Source:
Filmfodder
-
'Lost': When is 'wanting answers' a bad thing? Or a good thing?
-
Lost Discussion Group: What's the Objective?
- The Others have certainly shifted from the implacable enigmas of seasons past to
confused and frightened peasants.
- I think you could make a case that Jacob abandoned his people at the Temple. Yes, I
know he's dead, but he's still a major player. If he can finagle a way to nudge Jack towards
enlightenment and keep Jack and Hurley out of Flocke's clutches maybe he could have made an
effort towards keeping the Temple safe. And dunking Sayid in the Pool was his idea in the first
place. Smooth move, Sherlock.
- Who was controlling the time-travel? Some of the jumps were necessary to Flocke's plot to
kill Jacob, but Jin's jump to the French team allowed Jacob to save Sayid.
- Flocke/MIB is still nameless.
"He will come to you as someone you know... someone who has died." WOW. This
kind of information would've been pretty fucking useful last season, no? Dogen's
intel on the dark man's operation is a thousand times better than Ben or
Richard's. You'd think if they're sharing personnel with the barracks crew that
Dogen could somehow educate his allies against what looks to be the island's
greatest potential enemy. Instead, he keeps that knowledge to himself and hides
ancient mystic weaponry in the soil of common houseplants. Not a smart move.
Source:Vozzek99
- Why did Dogen know about Flocke's ability to impersonate the dead but Ben and Richard
were kept in the dark. besides it being necessary to the plot?
Recaps
-
THE DARK SIDE
, by Fishbiscuitland
-
Things I Noticed - "Sundown" by Vozzek69
, by Vozzek69
-
'Lost' recap: The Measure of the Man
, by Jeff Jensen (Entertainment Weekly)
-
He Drives a Hard Bargain: "Sundown" - Recap
, by Robz888
-
Terms of Indenture: Culture and Corruption in LOST 6.06
, by Pearson Moore
-
'Lost': Course Corrections for 'Sundown'
, by Zap 2 'Lost'
-
Marc Oromaner’s Lost In Myth: “Sundown”—Temptation of the Dark Side
-
S6Ep6 - Sundown
, by Long Live Locke
-
"The Man Inside of Me" by Locke, the Greatest Hits from this week's Ongoing Lost Post!!
, by The Ack Attack!
-
Lost Recap 6×06: Sundown
, by The Ack Attack!
-
'Lost' Dueling Analysis: 'Sundown'
, by Celebritology
-
Lost: “Sundown”
, by Kulturblog
-
Initial Thoughts: Sundown
, by Gitsie Girl
-
6 X 06: Sundown
, by Gitsie Girl
-
'Lost': Sayid loses himself in the dark
, by Showtracker (LA Times)
-
Lost Friday - "Sundown."
, by The CDP
-
The MISFit Dares TO Ask - SHOWdown
, by ThEmIsFiTiShErE
-
Lost: Better Off Dead
, by Tubular
Tue-Mar 09 2010
Mon-Mar 08 2010
Twitter Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:01:33
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Sun-Mar 07 2010
Lost Ep #605 - Lighthouse
Index:
Terms:
- T1: The timeline where flight 815 crashed on the Island.
- T2: The "flash-sideways" timeline where the Losties continue on to LA and the Island
is underwater.
- Jack2, Kate2, Claire2. etc2: Characters in T2. T1 characters have no suffix.
- Flocke: The impersonation of Locke, presumably by the Man in Black, aka Esau, Jacob's
Nemesis, The Smoke Monster.
Scene By Scene
All dialogue from the
Lostpedia Transcript
-T2 Jack2's Apartment-
I could Photoshop a better picture with my nose.
- Apartment was all black and white. Every piece of art-black and white.
- Appendectomy Scar:
There is NO WAY Jack2 would have forgotten that he had had his appendix taken out.
He's a neat-freak surgeon who waxes his chest hair-he wouldn't forget that he has
a big-ass scar right over his hipbone. Sure, he might have forgetten the actual incident when
he was seven, but he would have been reminded about constantly since then.
So I see 2 possibilities:
- Jack2's appendectomy is new, and T2's past has changed to accomodate it.
- My Theory: Jack2 is confused between memories of both the T2 and T1 appendectomies.
- What song is playing in Jack2's truck? It's driving me crazy.
- It's a sullen mini-Jack!
-T1 Temple-
- Jack's reflection is unclear.
- "Tie again" - If the first player is allowed to play in the center, tictactoe can
always be played to a tie. How many games have MIB and Jacob played to a tie?
-T2 Jack's Apartment-
- David is a Dodgers fan, not the Red Sox.
- T1 Jack read "Alice in Wonderland" to Alex.
- David takes after his dad, took ONE cookie and resealed bag.
-T1 Temple Hurley and Dogen-
-
Screenshots of writing on Hurley's arm.
Good luck decyphering it, Jorge Garcia has terrible handwriting.
- It's interesting that Dogen knows about Candidates but not Richard.
- Hurley is still a terrible liar.
- Dogen's Japanese: "You're lucky that I have to protect you. Otherwise I'd have cut your head off."
- Hurley's looking for the
Shen Ring to open the secret door.
-T1 Claire and Jin-
-T2 Jack2's Childhood Home-
-T1 Claire and Jin-
- The Others must not have been trying to find Claire very hard, her camp seems easy to
find.
- Claire makes a distinction between "her father" (Christian) and her "friend".
Bear in mind that she's nuts.
-T1 Jungle, Hurley and Jack-
- This must be the last season, because finally characters are
asking questions and sharing information.
- The new Lost forthrightness doesn't extend to Jack telling Kate that Claire
has been zombiefied.
-T2 Jack2's Apartment/Ex-Wife's House-
-T1 Jungle, Hurley and Jack-
- Jack's reason for returning to the Island may be selfish, but at least he's being honest.
-
HURLEY: "It's right there. It's a lighthouse."
JACK: "I don't understand. How is it that we've never seen it before?"
HURLEY: "Guess we weren't lookin for it."
-T1 Claire and Jin-
- The Others tested Claire like they tested Sayid.
- How did Claire escape? Are the Others unwilling to kill her because she's
a Candidate? "313 Littleton" was crossed off in the cliffside cave.
-T2 Williams Conservatory-
- Sign: "Welcome All Candidates!"
- Reflection of David in piano lid.
- Red judge's table.
- From the back I thought Dogen2 was Sayid2.
-T1 Lighthouse-
- Lighthouse wheel echoes Frozen Donkey Wheel
- In the mirror: The temple where Sun and Jin got married, the church where Sawyer's parents
had their funeral, Jack's parent's house.
- Jack's house has a white door-T2 house's was red.
- Oh, NOW you want answers.
-
Lighthouse Interior Screenshots
- Austen (Kate) wasn't one of the cliffside cave names, but she's on the wheel.
- Sayid
and
Jack's
names on the wheel look to be written or rewritten with a darker line than the other names.
This isn't because they time-travelled, because
"Kwon", "Austen" and "Ford" (above "Jarrah") aren't darker as well.
- The wheel appears to be full, with no space for more names. This is like the cliffside
cave, where the numbers got to zero.
- 108 on the wheel is "Wallace", which could be a "William Wallace" reference to Desmond or
just a red herring, since Jacob didn't intend the wheel to get turned anyway.
- If "Wallace" is a reference to a philosopher, it could be
Alfred Wallace.
-
List of Names and Numbers on the Lighthouse Wheel.
" Kwon is at 42° and Ford is at 15°. Jack is at 23°, which
would mean that if the wheel were turning clockwise, we would see Sawyer’s
reflection, then Jack’s, then the Kwons. If it was turning counter-clockwise,
we’d see the opposite - but nevertheless, we would see Jack’s reflection in
between those. Perhaps he just missed the reflection the first time since the
wheel was turning so fast, or perhaps the powers-that-be weren’t really paying
attention. And maybe I pay too much attention."
Source
It's stuff like this that makes me worry about plot holes the size of Jupiter.
-T1 Lighthouse, Hurley and Jacob-
- Hurley actually chides Jacob for not filling him in.
- Hurley is never as dumb as he seems.
- How did Jacob know that Jack would see anything in the mirrors?
- Why can't Jack be told what he needs to do? Probably because he wouldn't do it.
-T1 Claire and Jin-
- Of course She's nuts, but it seems a little contrived that Claire would want to kill Kate
for raising Aaron. Somebody had to take care of him-Claire had disappeared.
- Flocke doesn't seem happy to see Jin.
- How does Claire know that Flocke is "her friend" that's been with her for the
last 3 years? The MIB couldn't have assumed Locke's form until a couple of days ago,
and he's been busy. How did the MIB appear to Claire before Locke's body returned to the Island?
And if Claire
can recognize the MIB no matter what form he takes, why did she make a distinction
between "her friend" and "her father", who presumably was the MIB impersonating Christian?
Questions/Theories/Hairbrain Predictions
- Ep #604 was title "The Substitute", which might have tied in with the
Who song.
And if you want to go down the rabbit hole of Lost references, this episode's
title, "Lighthouse", could be a reference to The Who's unfinished and unreleased
followup to "Tommy",
"Lifehouse".
- I had always assumed that Jack's Ford Bronco was something he bought post-Island.
It just seemed to be a strange car for a tightly wound spinal surgeon to drive.
"Like season 6 Jack, the tragic hero of Greek myth Narcissus
also was fond of looking at himself in reflective surfaces. According to
Wikipedia, the word ''Narcissus'' is derived from a Greek word meaning...
''sleep'' and ''numbness.'' (Wow. That tangent was both short AND possibly
relevant!)"
Source: Jeff Jensen
- I'm thinking of referring to Jacob as "The Smug Bastard" from now on.
- Justin was ready to kill Claire, but Dogen couldn't just kill/execute Sayid.
They are both "claimed" Candidates, what accounts for the difference?
-
The Great 'Lost' Debate: Analyzing the sideways universe
- Why was Claire tested? Why didn't the Others just kill her?
- What is Jacob's relationship to the Purge?
-
The $64,000 question: did Widmore knowingly send Locke back at the behest of The
Man in Black or Jacob? Because one of those two had to give him his marching
orders. Answering that is like answering "Who staged the Oceanic 815 crash at
the bottom of the Sunda Trench?" during Season 4. You've got two equally
plausible scenarios that can't be answered definitely at this point. Either The
Man in Black told Widmore to send him back to create the loophole, or Jacob
WANTED the loophole to be broken in order to make the final leap of progress.
Source: Zap 2 'Lost'
Recaps
-
Through A Glass Darkly
, by Fishbiscuitland
-
Things I Noticed - "The Substitute"
, by Vozzek69
-
Things I Noticed - "Lighthouse"
, by Vozzek69
-
'Lost' recap: Mirror Image
, by Jeff Jensen (Entertainment Weekly)
-
Mirror, Mirror: Cultural Themes in LOST 6.05
, by Pearson Moore
-
Mirror, Mirror (Part II): Cultural Reflections on LOST 6.05 “Lighthouse”
, by Pearson Moore
-
Key Points from "Lighthouse"
, by Filmfodder
-
My reVIEWS!! The Lie OUtHouse
, by ThEmIsFiTiShErE
http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/588a006ec4681c387f190a77c5c577c1
-
Initial Thoughts; Lighthouse
, by Gitsie Girl
-
6 X 05: Lighthouse
, by Gitsie Girl
-
LOST Episode 6×05 "Lighthouse" - Screencaps, Easter Eggs, and Analysis
, by Get Lost Podcast
-
'Lost' Dueling Analysis: 'Lighthouse'
, by Celebritology
-
'Lost': Course Corrections for 'Lighthouse'
, by Zap 2 'Lost'
-
Marc Oromaner’s Lost In Myth: How "The Lighthouse" Can Enlighten Us
-
Smoke and Mirrors: LOST 6.05 "Lighthouse" Analysis
, by Chris Kirkman
-
S6Ep5 - Lighthouse
, by Long Live Locke
-
Lost Friday - "Lighthouse."
, by The CDP
-
LOST: “Lighthouse”
, by Kulturblog
-
Lost Recap 6×05: The Lighthouse
, by The Ack Attack!
-
Best of the Ongoing Lost Post
, by The Ack Attack!
-
Lost: Jack Earns His Degree
, by Tubular
Wed-Mar 03 2010
Tue-Mar 02 2010
Mon-Mar 01 2010
Sun-Feb 28 2010
Fri-Feb 26 2010
Lost Ep #604 "The Substitute"
Index:
Terms:
- T1: The timeline where flight 815 crashed on the Island.
- T2: The "flash-sideways" timeline where the Losties continue on to LA and the Island
is underwater.
- Jack2, Kate2, Claire2. etc2: Characters in T2. T1 characters have no suffix.
- Flocke: The impersonation of Locke, presumably by the Man in Black, aka Esau, Jacob's
Nemesis, The Smoke Monster.
Scene By Scene
All dialogue from the
Lostpedia Transcript
-T2 LA Suburb-
- License plate number of Locke2's van:
3PCI068
- Locke2 took a leap of faith off the van.
- T1 unmarried single Locke wouldn't have laughed at being stranded
on the lawn and doused by sprinklers.
- Locke loved the rain on the Island.
- Where did Locke2 meet Helen2? T1 Locke met Helen at an anger management class he was taking
because his dad conned him out of his kidney.
- Locke2 gets along with his father, Anthony Cooper2, which strongly suggests
that AC2 didn't con Locke2 out a kidney or push him out of an eighth-story window.
- This would also mean that Locke2 is paralyzed for another reason.
- Black and White (with a little Grey area) Coffee Cup.
- "Lost Luggage" LOL
-T1 Island-
-T2 Box Company-
-T1 Flocke & Richard-
- Flocke deliberately hit Richard in the throat to prevent him from speaking.
What didn't he want him to say?
- RICHARD: "What do you want?"
FLOCKE: "What I've always wanted. For you to come with me."
Flocke is probably just flattering him, but Richard does have some value.
-
RICHARD: "Why do you look like John Locke?"
FLOCKE: "I knew he'd get me access to Jacob. Because John's a candidate. Or at least he was a candidate..."
RICHARD: "What do you mean? What do you mean a candidate?"
FLOCKE: "Didn't Jacob tell you any of this?"
RICHARD: "Any of what?"
FLOCKE: "Oh, Richard... I'm sorry. You mean, you've been doing everything he told you all this time and he never said why?"
[Richard does not reply]
FLOCKE: "I would never have done that to you. I would never have kept you in the dark."
RICHARD: "And what would you have done?"
FLOCKE: "I would have treated you with respect. Come with me... and I promise I will tell you everything."
RICHARD: "No."
FLOCKE: "Are you sure about that, Richard? Because people seldom get a second chance..."
RICHARD: "I'm not going anywhere with you."
FLOCKE: "Alright."
[Locke sees a blond boy with bloodied arms standing in the jungle ... ]"
RICHARD: "What?"
FLOCKE: "I'll be seeing you, Richard. Sooner than you think."
[FLocke walks into the jungle]
- Flocke said Locke was a
Candidate,
which gave him access to Jacob. Richard didn't know
about Locke's candidacy or the concept of candidacy, so there was or is something
other than Richard that controlled access to Jacob.
- Flocke promises answers.
- I'm unsure whether Richard couldn't see the blond boy or if the boy was simply gone when
he turned around.
- Flocke attempted to recruit Richard, but let him live once he refused. Is is
against "The Rules" for Flocke to
kill Richard? It's possible that Flocke/Smokey can't kill people unless they've
been "judged" or in self-defense. Of course now that I think about it, "self-defense" is
a pretty murky concept when one is bulletproof.
-T1 Statue-
- Ben tells the truth about everything except for the part about him killing Jacob.
- Ilana collected some of Jacob's ashes.
- First instance of Ilana showing knowledge of Flocke: "He's recruiting".
-T1 Dharma Barracks-
- Search and Destroy, by The Stooges:
I'm a street walking cheetah
with a heart full of napalm
I'm a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb
I am a world's forgotten boy
The one who searches and destroys
Honey gotta help me please
Somebody gotta save my soul
Baby detonates for me
Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology!
Ain't got time to make no apology
Soul radiation in the dead of night
Love in the middle of a fire fight
Honey gotta strike me blind
Somebody gotta save my soul
Baby penetrates my mind
And I'm the world's forgotten boy
The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy
And honey I'm the world's forgotten boy
The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy
Forgotten boy, forgotten boy
Forgotten boy said
hey forgotten boy
lyrics source
Quite possibly the best use of pop-music in the entire series.
- Stooge: "
One who allows oneself to be used for another's profit or advantage; a puppet."
- I can see Sawyer thinking, "great, another sonofabitch who's supposed to be dead but is
still walking around."
- Flocke tasted the booze but did not drink. I'm betting we never see him eat or drink.
- Even drunk Sawyer could see through Flocke.
- LOCKE: "This isn't your house, James." - This mirrors Locke2 telling Jack2 that
the airline didn't lose his father.
- Flocke promised answers again.
- SAWYER: "I'm on this island because my plane crashed. Because my raft blew
up. Because the helicopter I was on was ridin' one too heavy."
Coincidence, Fate, or Enemy Action?
-T2 Box Company Parking Lot-
- Hurley2's luck: Locke2's lift doesn't even touch his Hummer.
- How the hell did Hurley2 even get out of his Hummer?
- There's a
little polar bear statue in Locke2's box
-T1 Outside Statue-
- The crab on dead Locke's head was a nice (creepy) touch.
- It's interesting that both Lapidus and Sun were packing heat.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer-
- Flocke was surprised that Sawyer can see the blond kid.
- BOY: "You know the rules. You can't kill him."
- Can't kill who? Sawyer?
- Is this a rule that can't be broken or one that shouldn't?
If it can't be broken, why remind Flocke? If the rule can be broken, is there
a penalty, or are the rules based merely on agreement? Or is the boy's warning to
Flocke just a storytelling device to introduce the rule?
- FLOCKE: "Don't tell me what I can't do!"
- Is Locke's personality beginning to manifest itself in Flocke?
Flocke has shown a liking for machetes similar to Locke's.
- Richard and Sawyer's conversation didn't tell us much except that Richard
is scared shitless of Flocke. Whether Richard is correct in his low opinion of
Flocke's veracity and motives remains to be seem. Me, I'm with Sawyer: get some
answers. Even lies can be informative.
-
"I enjoyed a brief interactivity with LOST this week;
when Locke was faced with a stuck chair lift at the beginning, I yelled out
"JUMP IT!!!!" seconds before he attempted that very thing. I was highly amused,
and tried it later on when Fake Locke was chasing the Island Boy. I yelled "why
are you running?!? you're not human!!! change into smoke and GET HIM!!!"
It didn't work."
Source: The CDP (comments)
- "What Kid?" Uh, the one you asked if I could see? AWKWARD
-T2 Temp Agency-
- In T1 Locke2's
interviewer was hired by Hurley's father to pose as a tarot reader.
- In T2, Rose2 works for a company Hurley2 owns.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer-
- Flocke said "Of Mice and Men" was before his time.
- SAWYER: "What are you?"
FLOCKE: "What I am is trapped. And I've been trapped for so long that I don't even
remember what it feels like to be free. Maybe you can understand that. But
before I was trapped, I was a man, James. Just like you."
SAWYER: "I'm havin' a hard time believin' that..."
FLOCKE: "You can believe whatever you want, that's the truth. I know what it's
like to feel joy... to feel pain, anger, fear... to experience betrayal. I know
what it's like to lose someone you love. So if you wanna shoot me, shoot me. But
you're so close, James. It would be such a shame to turn back now."
That's a pretty good speech. It may even be true.
- I think one reason Sawyer didn't shoot Flocke is because he believes there's a good
chance it won't work.
-T1 Burying Locke-
-T2 Locke2's House-
- Every episode this season so far there's been a mirror scene. Jack2 in the airplane bathroom,
Kate2 in the repair shop bathroom and now Locke2 in his bathroom. Locke2's scene is the first
where the character doesn't at themselves in the mirror; because T1 Locke is dead?
- "Oh honey, you travel with a case full of knives, how sweet"
- Unlike T1 Locke, Locke2 decides to accept his paralysis and stop fantasizing that he could be
some special person leading an exotic exciting life. Now all he has to do is stay away from
ocean trips.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer, Cliffs-
- How are they going to get out of that cave?
-T2 High School-
- Evil genius and master manipulator Ben Linus is a passive-aggressive european history teacher.
- But how can Ben be alive? He was wounded and at the Temple when the Losties lit off Jughead and
sunk the Island, wasn't he? Except that this requires that flight 815 crashed with Sayid on board so
that Sayid travell back to 1977 and shoot Ben, which didn't happen.
Welcome to the paradoxical nature of the T2 timeline, if T2 depends on T1.
-T1 Jacob's Cave-
Questions/Theories/Hairbrain Predictions
- You know what this episode was missing?
Tom Berenger
- I'm getting a feeling that we won't get many answers from the Others.
If Richard doesn't have the inside scoop, who does?
- At first I thought the blond boy
was 2 people, the first bloody one younger than the second. But Lostpedia says it
was the same actor both times.
- Casting call for the blond boy:
"Teenage boy, caucasian, 12-14. Dirty blond
hair. Wise beyond his years. He's got intense, searching eyes. He's dealt with a
horrible family accident. Even at a young age, he has been put in charge of
something very important, and it weighs heavily on his shoulders."
- Why did Jacob visit Kate as a child but not write her name in the cave? Let's put it
this way: He's been on that damn Island for hundreds of years
with only a homicidal pillar of black smoke for company.
- 4 - Locke
8 - Reyes
15 - Ford
16 - Jarrah
23 - Shephard
42 - Kwon
- I'm not buying that Jacob gets people to come to the Island by influencing ONE choice they
make, usually in childhood. That would be like making a 10 dimensional bank-shot off thousands
of cushions.
- The numbers may have started with Jacob's Cave list, but why to they keep showing up?
- Notice how the Cave numbers are counting down? The current crop of shanghaied dupes are
the last ones unless Jacob starts over with larger numbers
-
Parallels between Jacob/MIB and the Hatch by CruzaderJC
- ..........................................
You think we look pretty good together
You think my shoes are made of leather
But I'm a substitute for another guy
I look pretty tall but my heels are high
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated, yeah
Substitute your lies for fact
I can see right through your plastic mac
I look all white, but my dad was black
My fine looking suit is really made out of sack
I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth
The north side of my town faced east, and the east was facing south
And now you dare to look me in the eye
Those crocodile tears are what you cry
It's a genuine problem, you won't try
To work it out at all you just pass it by, pass it by
Substitute me for him
Substitute my coke for gin
Substitute you for my mum
At least I'll get my washing done
The Who: Substitute lyrics
.........................................
Do the Jacob's Ladders lead to Jacob's Cave, like the Monster says? Are the
names those of the people Jacob wanted to bring to the Island? Or are they just
the Monster's list of each of Jacob's players that he's managed somehow to
capture? I think it must be the Monster's cave, because Juliet's name is crossed
out, and Jacob was quite dead before she finally kicked it. Or maybe it was
until just recently a shared space, a free zone where both had equal rights.
Source:
Fishbiscuitland
- Theory: Jacob needed Ajira flight 316 to bring back the Oceanic 6 (-Aaron) as much as
the MIB needed it to bring Locke's body and Ben.
- Symbols of confinement:
- Locke2 in wheelchair
- Locke2 stuck on van lift
- Locke2 in bathtub
- Locke2's cubicle
- Hurley2 blocking Locke2's van
- Richard wrapped in tarp
- Sawyer inside house, drinking behind bed
- Flocke describing himself as "trapped"
- Locke's grave
- Cave
- Flocke stuck impersonating Locke
- Every time I hear the line "The time for questions is over" in a promo I get
the impression "they" are telling me to shut up.
- Why does the Island need protecting? Sure, the Island is a strange and unique place, but is
it a good place?
- Pro: Undependable healing effect
- Con: Pregnant women die in childbirth
- Homicidal cultists
- Malevolent smoke monsters
- Manipulative, kidnapping, murderous blond demi-god
- Booby-trap laying crazy women
- Nuclear Weapon
- Chemical Weapon
- Ben Linus
Recaps
- No recap by Vozzek (yet) because
his house burned down
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PLAYING FOR KEEPS , by Fishbiscuitland
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Lost Episode 5.15 History Repeated, by Luhks (Which is totally late and totally worth it)
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LOST: “The Substitute”
, by Kulturblog
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SPOILER ALERT: Mini-Recap & Discussion Post for “The Substitute”
, by The Ack Attack!
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Initial Thoughts: The Substitute
, by Gitsie Girl
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6 X 04: The Substitute
, by Gitsie Girl
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Lost Recap 6×04: The Substitute, by The Ack Attack!
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And now the Greatest Hits of this week's Ongoing Lost Post!!. by The Ack Attack!
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My REVIEWS - EPisode 6x04 - THe SUB is Two
, by ThEmIsFiTiShErE
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'Lost' Dueling Analysis: 'The Substitute'
, by Celebritology
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Lost: The Writing on the Wall, by Tubular
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Prime Candidate: Cultural Thoughts on LOST 6.04 “The Substitute”
, by Pearson Moore
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'Lost' recap: The Man With the Plan
, by Jeff Jensen (Entertainment Weekly)
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LOST 6.04 "The Substitute" Review
, by TV Overmind
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'Lost': Course Corrections for 'The Substitute'
, by Zap 2 'Lost'
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S6Ep4: The Substitute
, by Long Live Locke
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Lost Friday - "The Substitute."
, by The CDP
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Marc Oromaner’s Lost In Myth: Why LOST Can Be A Substitute For “Willy Wonka”
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Key Points from "The Substitute"
, by Filmfodder
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