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  Lost Ep #605 - Lighthouse

Index:

Terms:

  • T1: The timeline where flight 815 crashed on the Island.
  • T2: The "flash-sideways" timeline where the Losties continue on to LA and the Island is underwater.
  • Jack2, Kate2, Claire2. etc2: Characters in T2. T1 characters have no suffix.
  • Flocke: The impersonation of Locke, presumably by the Man in Black, aka Esau, Jacob's Nemesis, The Smoke Monster.

Scene By Scene

All dialogue from the Lostpedia Transcript

-T2 Jack2's Apartment-

  • lost picture lighthouse jack and parents

    I could Photoshop a better picture with my nose.

  • Apartment was all black and white. Every piece of art-black and white.
  • Appendectomy Scar:

    There is NO WAY Jack2 would have forgotten that he had had his appendix taken out. He's a neat-freak surgeon who waxes his chest hair-he wouldn't forget that he has a big-ass scar right over his hipbone. Sure, he might have forgetten the actual incident when he was seven, but he would have been reminded about constantly since then.

    So I see 2 possibilities:

    1. Jack2's appendectomy is new, and T2's past has changed to accomodate it.
    2. My Theory: Jack2 is confused between memories of both the T2 and T1 appendectomies.

  • What song is playing in Jack2's truck? It's driving me crazy.
  • It's a sullen mini-Jack!
-T1 Temple-
  • Jack's reflection is unclear.
  • "Tie again" - If the first player is allowed to play in the center, tictactoe can always be played to a tie. How many games have MIB and Jacob played to a tie?
-T2 Jack's Apartment-
  • David is a Dodgers fan, not the Red Sox.
  • T1 Jack read "Alice in Wonderland" to Alex.
  • David takes after his dad, took ONE cookie and resealed bag.
-T1 Temple Hurley and Dogen-
  • Screenshots of writing on Hurley's arm. Good luck decyphering it, Jorge Garcia has terrible handwriting.
  • It's interesting that Dogen knows about Candidates but not Richard.
  • Hurley is still a terrible liar.
  • Dogen's Japanese: "You're lucky that I have to protect you. Otherwise I'd have cut your head off."
  • Hurley's looking for the Shen Ring to open the secret door.
-T1 Claire and Jin-
  • Love the creepy Pig-Skull Baby
  • It must never rain on Claire's camp.
  • You just know we're going to see more of that dynamite.

    Irrelevant Fun Fact: Dynamite and TNT are not the same.

  • CLAIRE: "We'd better get that cleaned up. If there's one thing that'll kill you around here it's infection."

    IRONY

  • As someone who is Claimed/Infected, is Claire not getting any Island Healing Goodness?
  • Screenshots of Claire's Camp
-T2 Jack2's Childhood Home- -T1 Claire and Jin-
  • The Others must not have been trying to find Claire very hard, her camp seems easy to find.
  • Claire makes a distinction between "her father" (Christian) and her "friend". Bear in mind that she's nuts.
-T1 Jungle, Hurley and Jack-
  • This must be the last season, because finally characters are asking questions and sharing information.
  • The new Lost forthrightness doesn't extend to Jack telling Kate that Claire has been zombiefied.
-T2 Jack2's Apartment/Ex-Wife's House- -T1 Jungle, Hurley and Jack-
  • Jack's reason for returning to the Island may be selfish, but at least he's being honest.
  • HURLEY: "It's right there. It's a lighthouse."
    JACK: "I don't understand. How is it that we've never seen it before?"
    HURLEY: "Guess we weren't lookin for it."
-T1 Claire and Jin-
  • The Others tested Claire like they tested Sayid.
  • How did Claire escape? Are the Others unwilling to kill her because she's a Candidate? "313 Littleton" was crossed off in the cliffside cave.
-T2 Williams Conservatory-
  • Sign: "Welcome All Candidates!"
  • Reflection of David in piano lid.
  • Red judge's table.
  • From the back I thought Dogen2 was Sayid2.
-T1 Lighthouse-
  • Lighthouse wheel echoes Frozen Donkey Wheel
  • In the mirror: The temple where Sun and Jin got married, the church where Sawyer's parents had their funeral, Jack's parent's house.
  • Jack's house has a white door-T2 house's was red.
  • Oh, NOW you want answers.
  • Lighthouse Interior Screenshots
  • Austen (Kate) wasn't one of the cliffside cave names, but she's on the wheel.
  • Sayid and Jack's names on the wheel look to be written or rewritten with a darker line than the other names. This isn't because they time-travelled, because "Kwon", "Austen" and "Ford" (above "Jarrah") aren't darker as well.
  • The wheel appears to be full, with no space for more names. This is like the cliffside cave, where the numbers got to zero.
  • 108 on the wheel is "Wallace", which could be a "William Wallace" reference to Desmond or just a red herring, since Jacob didn't intend the wheel to get turned anyway.
  • If "Wallace" is a reference to a philosopher, it could be Alfred Wallace.
  • List of Names and Numbers on the Lighthouse Wheel.
  • " Kwon is at 42° and Ford is at 15°. Jack is at 23°, which would mean that if the wheel were turning clockwise, we would see Sawyer’s reflection, then Jack’s, then the Kwons. If it was turning counter-clockwise, we’d see the opposite - but nevertheless, we would see Jack’s reflection in between those. Perhaps he just missed the reflection the first time since the wheel was turning so fast, or perhaps the powers-that-be weren’t really paying attention. And maybe I pay too much attention."

    Source

    It's stuff like this that makes me worry about plot holes the size of Jupiter.

-T1 Lighthouse, Hurley and Jacob-
  • Hurley actually chides Jacob for not filling him in.
  • Hurley is never as dumb as he seems.
  • How did Jacob know that Jack would see anything in the mirrors?
  • Why can't Jack be told what he needs to do? Probably because he wouldn't do it.
-T1 Claire and Jin-
  • Of course She's nuts, but it seems a little contrived that Claire would want to kill Kate for raising Aaron. Somebody had to take care of him-Claire had disappeared.
  • Flocke doesn't seem happy to see Jin.
  • How does Claire know that Flocke is "her friend" that's been with her for the last 3 years? The MIB couldn't have assumed Locke's form until a couple of days ago, and he's been busy. How did the MIB appear to Claire before Locke's body returned to the Island? And if Claire can recognize the MIB no matter what form he takes, why did she make a distinction between "her friend" and "her father", who presumably was the MIB impersonating Christian?

Questions/Theories/Hairbrain Predictions

  • Ep #604 was title "The Substitute", which might have tied in with the Who song. And if you want to go down the rabbit hole of Lost references, this episode's title, "Lighthouse", could be a reference to The Who's unfinished and unreleased followup to "Tommy", "Lifehouse".
  • I had always assumed that Jack's Ford Bronco was something he bought post-Island. It just seemed to be a strange car for a tightly wound spinal surgeon to drive.
  • "Like season 6 Jack, the tragic hero of Greek myth Narcissus also was fond of looking at himself in reflective surfaces. According to Wikipedia, the word ''Narcissus'' is derived from a Greek word meaning... ''sleep'' and ''numbness.'' (Wow. That tangent was both short AND possibly relevant!)"

    Source: Jeff Jensen
  • I'm thinking of referring to Jacob as "The Smug Bastard" from now on.
  • Justin was ready to kill Claire, but Dogen couldn't just kill/execute Sayid. They are both "claimed" Candidates, what accounts for the difference?
  • The Great 'Lost' Debate: Analyzing the sideways universe
  • Why was Claire tested? Why didn't the Others just kill her?
  • What is Jacob's relationship to the Purge?
  • The $64,000 question: did Widmore knowingly send Locke back at the behest of The Man in Black or Jacob? Because one of those two had to give him his marching orders. Answering that is like answering "Who staged the Oceanic 815 crash at the bottom of the Sunda Trench?" during Season 4. You've got two equally plausible scenarios that can't be answered definitely at this point. Either The Man in Black told Widmore to send him back to create the loophole, or Jacob WANTED the loophole to be broken in order to make the final leap of progress.

    Source: Zap 2 'Lost'

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  Lost Ep #604 "The Substitute"

Index:

Terms:

  • T1: The timeline where flight 815 crashed on the Island.
  • T2: The "flash-sideways" timeline where the Losties continue on to LA and the Island is underwater.
  • Jack2, Kate2, Claire2. etc2: Characters in T2. T1 characters have no suffix.
  • Flocke: The impersonation of Locke, presumably by the Man in Black, aka Esau, Jacob's Nemesis, The Smoke Monster.

Scene By Scene

All dialogue from the Lostpedia Transcript

-T2 LA Suburb-
  • License plate number of Locke2's van: 3PCI068
  • Locke2 took a leap of faith off the van.
  • T1 unmarried single Locke wouldn't have laughed at being stranded on the lawn and doused by sprinklers.
  • Locke loved the rain on the Island.
  • Where did Locke2 meet Helen2? T1 Locke met Helen at an anger management class he was taking because his dad conned him out of his kidney.
  • Locke2 gets along with his father, Anthony Cooper2, which strongly suggests that AC2 didn't con Locke2 out a kidney or push him out of an eighth-story window.
  • This would also mean that Locke2 is paralyzed for another reason.
  • Black and White (with a little Grey area) Coffee Cup.
  • "Lost Luggage" LOL
-T1 Island- -T2 Box Company- -T1 Flocke & Richard-
  • Flocke deliberately hit Richard in the throat to prevent him from speaking. What didn't he want him to say?
  • RICHARD: "What do you want?"
    FLOCKE: "What I've always wanted. For you to come with me."

    Flocke is probably just flattering him, but Richard does have some value.
  • RICHARD: "Why do you look like John Locke?"
    FLOCKE: "I knew he'd get me access to Jacob. Because John's a candidate. Or at least he was a candidate..."
    RICHARD: "What do you mean? What do you mean a candidate?"
    FLOCKE: "Didn't Jacob tell you any of this?"
    RICHARD: "Any of what?"
    FLOCKE: "Oh, Richard... I'm sorry. You mean, you've been doing everything he told you all this time and he never said why?"
    [Richard does not reply]
    FLOCKE: "I would never have done that to you. I would never have kept you in the dark."
    RICHARD: "And what would you have done?"
    FLOCKE: "I would have treated you with respect. Come with me... and I promise I will tell you everything."
    RICHARD: "No."
    FLOCKE: "Are you sure about that, Richard? Because people seldom get a second chance..."
    RICHARD: "I'm not going anywhere with you."
    FLOCKE: "Alright."
    [Locke sees a blond boy with bloodied arms standing in the jungle ... ]"
    RICHARD: "What?"
    FLOCKE: "I'll be seeing you, Richard. Sooner than you think."
    [FLocke walks into the jungle]
  • Flocke said Locke was a Candidate, which gave him access to Jacob. Richard didn't know about Locke's candidacy or the concept of candidacy, so there was or is something other than Richard that controlled access to Jacob.
  • Flocke promises answers.
  • I'm unsure whether Richard couldn't see the blond boy or if the boy was simply gone when he turned around.
  • Flocke attempted to recruit Richard, but let him live once he refused. Is is against "The Rules" for Flocke to kill Richard? It's possible that Flocke/Smokey can't kill people unless they've been "judged" or in self-defense. Of course now that I think about it, "self-defense" is a pretty murky concept when one is bulletproof.
-T1 Statue-
  • Ben tells the truth about everything except for the part about him killing Jacob.
  • Ilana collected some of Jacob's ashes.
  • First instance of Ilana showing knowledge of Flocke: "He's recruiting".
-T1 Dharma Barracks-
  • Search and Destroy, by The Stooges:

    I'm a street walking cheetah
    with a heart full of napalm
    I'm a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb
    I am a world's forgotten boy
    The one who searches and destroys
    Honey gotta help me please
    Somebody gotta save my soul
    Baby detonates for me
    Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology!
    Ain't got time to make no apology
    Soul radiation in the dead of night
    Love in the middle of a fire fight
    Honey gotta strike me blind
    Somebody gotta save my soul
    Baby penetrates my mind
    And I'm the world's forgotten boy
    The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy
    And honey I'm the world's forgotten boy
    The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy
    Forgotten boy, forgotten boy
    Forgotten boy said
    hey forgotten boy

    lyrics source

    Quite possibly the best use of pop-music in the entire series.
  • Stooge: " One who allows oneself to be used for another's profit or advantage; a puppet."
  • I can see Sawyer thinking, "great, another sonofabitch who's supposed to be dead but is still walking around."
  • Flocke tasted the booze but did not drink. I'm betting we never see him eat or drink.
  • Even drunk Sawyer could see through Flocke.
  • LOCKE: "This isn't your house, James." - This mirrors Locke2 telling Jack2 that the airline didn't lose his father.
  • Flocke promised answers again.
  • SAWYER: "I'm on this island because my plane crashed. Because my raft blew up. Because the helicopter I was on was ridin' one too heavy."
    Coincidence, Fate, or Enemy Action?
-T2 Box Company Parking Lot-
  • Hurley2's luck: Locke2's lift doesn't even touch his Hummer.
  • How the hell did Hurley2 even get out of his Hummer?
  • There's a little polar bear statue in Locke2's box
-T1 Outside Statue-
  • The crab on dead Locke's head was a nice (creepy) touch.
  • It's interesting that both Lapidus and Sun were packing heat.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer-
  • Flocke was surprised that Sawyer can see the blond kid.
  • BOY: "You know the rules. You can't kill him."
  • Can't kill who? Sawyer?
  • Is this a rule that can't be broken or one that shouldn't? If it can't be broken, why remind Flocke? If the rule can be broken, is there a penalty, or are the rules based merely on agreement? Or is the boy's warning to Flocke just a storytelling device to introduce the rule?
  • FLOCKE: "Don't tell me what I can't do!"
  • Is Locke's personality beginning to manifest itself in Flocke? Flocke has shown a liking for machetes similar to Locke's.
  • Richard and Sawyer's conversation didn't tell us much except that Richard is scared shitless of Flocke. Whether Richard is correct in his low opinion of Flocke's veracity and motives remains to be seem. Me, I'm with Sawyer: get some answers. Even lies can be informative.
  • "I enjoyed a brief interactivity with LOST this week; when Locke was faced with a stuck chair lift at the beginning, I yelled out "JUMP IT!!!!" seconds before he attempted that very thing. I was highly amused, and tried it later on when Fake Locke was chasing the Island Boy. I yelled "why are you running?!? you're not human!!! change into smoke and GET HIM!!!"

    It didn't work."

    Source: The CDP (comments)
  • "What Kid?" Uh, the one you asked if I could see? AWKWARD
-T2 Temp Agency-
  • In T1 Locke2's interviewer was hired by Hurley's father to pose as a tarot reader.
  • In T2, Rose2 works for a company Hurley2 owns.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer-
  • Flocke said "Of Mice and Men" was before his time.
  • SAWYER: "What are you?"
    FLOCKE: "What I am is trapped. And I've been trapped for so long that I don't even remember what it feels like to be free. Maybe you can understand that. But before I was trapped, I was a man, James. Just like you."
    SAWYER: "I'm havin' a hard time believin' that..."
    FLOCKE: "You can believe whatever you want, that's the truth. I know what it's like to feel joy... to feel pain, anger, fear... to experience betrayal. I know what it's like to lose someone you love. So if you wanna shoot me, shoot me. But you're so close, James. It would be such a shame to turn back now."

    That's a pretty good speech. It may even be true.
  • I think one reason Sawyer didn't shoot Flocke is because he believes there's a good chance it won't work.
-T1 Burying Locke-
  • BEN: "Why did you have to bring him [Locke's body] to the statue in the first place?"
    ILANA: "Because the people there need to see the face of what they're up against."
    BEN: "And whats to stop what they're up against from changing his face?"
    ILANA: "He can't; not anymore. Hes stuck this way."

    I've got a possible problem with what Ilana knows and doesn't know:

    • She knows somehow that Flocke is recruiting.
    • She knows somehow that Flocke can't impersonate a dead person other than Locke.
    • How is it that she does NOT KNOW that Flocke couldn't have killed Jacob? I hope she didn't believe Ben and is just stringing him along until they get to the Temple.
  • When did Ilana realize that resurrected Locke was the MIB and why didn't Richard or Ben?
  • Loved Ben's eulogy. I think he may actually feel guilty.
  • If Locke was the new leader of the Others, will Ben's confession that he murdered him get him in trouble?
-T2 Locke2's House-
  • Every episode this season so far there's been a mirror scene. Jack2 in the airplane bathroom, Kate2 in the repair shop bathroom and now Locke2 in his bathroom. Locke2's scene is the first where the character doesn't at themselves in the mirror; because T1 Locke is dead?
  • "Oh honey, you travel with a case full of knives, how sweet"
  • Unlike T1 Locke, Locke2 decides to accept his paralysis and stop fantasizing that he could be some special person leading an exotic exciting life. Now all he has to do is stay away from ocean trips.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer, Cliffs-
  • How are they going to get out of that cave?
-T2 High School-
  • Evil genius and master manipulator Ben Linus is a passive-aggressive european history teacher.
  • But how can Ben be alive? He was wounded and at the Temple when the Losties lit off Jughead and sunk the Island, wasn't he? Except that this requires that flight 815 crashed with Sayid on board so that Sayid travell back to 1977 and shoot Ben, which didn't happen. Welcome to the paradoxical nature of the T2 timeline, if T2 depends on T1.
-T1 Jacob's Cave-

Questions/Theories/Hairbrain Predictions

  • You know what this episode was missing? Tom Berenger
  • I'm getting a feeling that we won't get many answers from the Others. If Richard doesn't have the inside scoop, who does?
  • At first I thought the blond boy was 2 people, the first bloody one younger than the second. But Lostpedia says it was the same actor both times.
  • Casting call for the blond boy:
    "Teenage boy, caucasian, 12-14. Dirty blond hair. Wise beyond his years. He's got intense, searching eyes. He's dealt with a horrible family accident. Even at a young age, he has been put in charge of something very important, and it weighs heavily on his shoulders."
  • Why did Jacob visit Kate as a child but not write her name in the cave? Let's put it this way: He's been on that damn Island for hundreds of years with only a homicidal pillar of black smoke for company.
  • 4 - Locke
    8 - Reyes
    15 - Ford
    16 - Jarrah
    23 - Shephard
    42 - Kwon
  • I'm not buying that Jacob gets people to come to the Island by influencing ONE choice they make, usually in childhood. That would be like making a 10 dimensional bank-shot off thousands of cushions.
  • The numbers may have started with Jacob's Cave list, but why to they keep showing up?
  • Notice how the Cave numbers are counting down? The current crop of shanghaied dupes are the last ones unless Jacob starts over with larger numbers
  • Parallels between Jacob/MIB and the Hatch by CruzaderJC
  • ..........................................
    You think we look pretty good together
    You think my shoes are made of leather

    But I'm a substitute for another guy
    I look pretty tall but my heels are high
    The simple things you see are all complicated
    I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated, yeah
    Substitute your lies for fact
    I can see right through your plastic mac
    I look all white, but my dad was black
    My fine looking suit is really made out of sack

    I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth
    The north side of my town faced east, and the east was facing south
    And now you dare to look me in the eye
    Those crocodile tears are what you cry
    It's a genuine problem, you won't try
    To work it out at all you just pass it by, pass it by

    Substitute me for him
    Substitute my coke for gin
    Substitute you for my mum
    At least I'll get my washing done

    The Who: Substitute lyrics
    .........................................
  • Do the Jacob's Ladders lead to Jacob's Cave, like the Monster says? Are the names those of the people Jacob wanted to bring to the Island? Or are they just the Monster's list of each of Jacob's players that he's managed somehow to capture? I think it must be the Monster's cave, because Juliet's name is crossed out, and Jacob was quite dead before she finally kicked it. Or maybe it was until just recently a shared space, a free zone where both had equal rights.

    Source: Fishbiscuitland
  • Theory: Jacob needed Ajira flight 316 to bring back the Oceanic 6 (-Aaron) as much as the MIB needed it to bring Locke's body and Ben.
  • Symbols of confinement:
    • Locke2 in wheelchair
    • Locke2 stuck on van lift
    • Locke2 in bathtub
    • Locke2's cubicle
    • Hurley2 blocking Locke2's van
    • Richard wrapped in tarp
    • Sawyer inside house, drinking behind bed
    • Flocke describing himself as "trapped"
    • Locke's grave
    • Cave
    • Flocke stuck impersonating Locke
  • Every time I hear the line "The time for questions is over" in a promo I get the impression "they" are telling me to shut up.
  • Why does the Island need protecting? Sure, the Island is a strange and unique place, but is it a good place?
    • Pro: Undependable healing effect
    • Con: Pregnant women die in childbirth
    • Homicidal cultists
    • Malevolent smoke monsters
    • Manipulative, kidnapping, murderous blond demi-god
    • Booby-trap laying crazy women
    • Nuclear Weapon
    • Chemical Weapon
    • Ben Linus

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  Lost Ep #603 - What Kate Does



Index:

Terms:

  • T1: The timeline where flight 815 crashed on the Island.
  • T2: The "flash-sideways" timeline where the Losties continue on to LA and the Island is underwater.
  • Jack2, Kate2, Claire2. etc2: Characters in T2. T1 characters have no suffix.
  • Flocke: The impersonation of Locke, presumably by the Man in Black, aka Esau, Jacob's Nemesis, The Smoke Monster.

Scene By Scene

T1 Temple:
  • The camera focused on Lennon's bare feet.

    In " ...And Found", Eko and Jin see some people, possibly Others, walk past them in the jungle [All Barefooted - Utility Fog]. One of the group appears to be a child, and is dragging with him a teddy bear tied to some rope. The bear resembles Zach's, though Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse denied the similarity on the Official Lost podcast.

    Source: Lostpedia

  • Is Dogen inside a maze? Lennon looked behind like he was worried about being followed.
  • Dogen using a manual typewriter.

T2 LAX:
  • Flash of connection between Kate2 and Jack2?
  • First sign that Claire2 is pregnant.

T1 Temple:
  • Of course it moves the plot along, but why bring Sayid out into the courtyard? He was dead 5 minutes ago, let the man rest.
  • Seeing his healed wound freaks Sayid out a little.
  • "Sayid seemed more than a little confused after his apparent resurrection. He was totally blanked out - his mind resetting to the moment he got shot. Jack makes no bones about the fact that he died, and the temple-dwellers seem to understand this too. If Sayid had been healed by the water, he would've been fine, but that's not what happened. Somehow Sayid has returned from the dead, and in the eyes of Dogen's people, that presents a very big problem.

    Did Sayid spend some time at the "in-between" place mentioned in the Eko-centric episode entitled "?" Totally. Just as Charlotte Malkin drowned and later came back to life, it seems Sayid might've dipped into this realm for a few minutes himself. It should be interesting if he regains memories of being in that place, and can somehow talk about it the way Charlotte told Eko of seeing his brother, Yemi. Sayid's mention of the last thing he remembered also seemed similar to Locke's words when he woke up on the beach after the Ajira flight: "I remember dying".

    Sawyer's line about Sayid coming back because he was a torturer and child-killer was him channeling his anger at what happened to Juliet. Yet in a very 'only the good die young moment', it reminded us of some Purgatory-like rules: the greater the sin, the more the suffering. Perhaps Sawyer has it all backward. Maybe Juliet was allowed to pass on because she'd reconciled herself and made peace with her past. Sayid on the other hand, had drifted into unconsciousness knowing and believing he'd end up in a very terrible place. That place? The island, all over again. If it does turn out to be a place of suffering, it would make sense that the island isn't done with him yet - the same way it wasn't done with Michael."

    Source: Vozzek69

  • "Nothing to worry about" my ass.
  • Lennon: "Oh, I'm sorry, we need to talk to him alone. Just a few questions..."
    Jack: "You have a few questions" Well, so do we. I mean let's start with, who are you? Why are you holding us here? You--"
    Dogen: [speaks Japanese] "Kono otoko wo damarasero" (この男を黙らせろ―Let this man shut up.)
    Lennon: "Once we've spoken to Mr. Jarrah we will be more than happy to tell you everything you want to know."
    Jack: "Something tells me... that you're not gonna be happy to tell us anything."

    One thing that really stood out this episode is the number of questions the Losties asked, in stark contrast to seasons past.

    And as we will see, Lennon is lying about about telling the Losties everything they want to know.

  • When the Japanese Other, who we now know is named Dogen, sees Hurley, Jack and Miles with Sayid in the Temple courtyard, he says, "What are you doing?" with a phrasing (attomari suru) that could also mean "What are you becoming?" Then, we Jack starts asking questions, Dogen says (I think), "Don?t say anything." Just before the scuffle, he says, "Take him."

    source: Kulturblog

  • Jack was pulling an interesting move on the big Other who tried to grab him.
  • Where did Sawyer get the gun?
  • Dogen wants Sawyer to stay bad enough to speak English and say "please". I wonder if we'll ever see Jacob's note from the guitar case?

T1 Temple-After the break:
  • I didn't see Sawyer actually shoot anyone, but in the background two Others carried away a wounded Other.
  • Shouting "Calm down, Everybody calm down!!" might work better without the sticking of pistols in faces.
  • The theme for this show is "Running Away and Going Back".

T2 Auto Repair Shop:
  • At first I thought Kate2 was going to try to trade the cab for another car at a chop-shop.
  • The mechanic was played by Jeff Kober. You can't have a Sci-Fi show without him - he's been on Earth 2, Buffy (2 roles), X-Files, Star Trek Voyager, Charmed, Poltergeist, Star Trek Enterprise, and Supernatural among others.
  • Aaron had the same stuffed orca when Jack and Kate were living together in "Something Nice Back Home".
  • Another mirror, the first one was Jack2/Airplane bathroom.
  • My take: Kate2 didn't go back for Claire2, she went back for Aaron2, even she doesn't know it.

T1 Dogen and Sayid:
  • Dogen blew a powder, probably ash, over Sayid and closely observed something.
  • Dogen applied electrodes to Sayid's chest and shocked him.
  • Dogen burned Sayid's chest with a hot poker and again closely observed his reactions.
  • Dogen: [Japanese]"Yoshi kore de jyuubun da"(よしこれで十分だ―"All right.That's enough.)"Shiken ni tootta to omoe"(試験に通ったと思え―Think you pass the exam.)
  • Dogen's "diagnosis" of Sayid echoes Rousseau questioning Sayid in "Solitary".

T2 LA Bus Stop:
  • I got nothing.

T1 Jungle-Tracking Sawyer:
  • Kate asks questions.
  • I hope Aldo and Justin brought some ash.
  • Jin asks questions.
  • I'll Aldo some credit, when he doesn't answer questions he doesn't get all vague or ask a question back - he just refuses to answer.
  • Aldo got clocked by Kate in "Not In Portland"

    Alex brings Sawyer and Kate to another part of the Hydra compound in the jungle. An Other named Aldo is sitting guard outside, reading Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time, and Alex approaches, claiming to have captured Kate and Sawyer. As they argue about "her dad" not wanting her to be there, Sawyer knocks him over and mocks him for falling for the "ol' Wookiee prisoner gag." Kate threatens to shoot Aldo in the knee (she tells Sawyer later that she wasn't bluffing), so he reveals that Karl is at the end of the hall in Room 23. Kate knocks him out and they break into the room, where Karl is strapped to a chair with an IV in his arm and LED glasses on his face. He is being forced to watch a video with strange flashing images, text, and sounds. Sawyer is momentarily entranced by the video but Kate snaps him out of it. They remove Karl from his chair, and Sawyer carries him out over his shoulder.

  • Kate was smarter than Aldo then, and she's smarter than him now.
  • What does Kate do? She escapes.

T1 Temple Spring/Dogen's Room:
  • It's odd that the Others had the Losties stay at the spring. I'd be worried that somebody might get the bright idea to drink the water or even slip and fall in. But I guess when you build a kick-ass set complete with running water you want to get your money's worth out of it.
  • Sayid references Han Solo's line, "They never even asked me any questions", after being tortured by Darth Vader.
  • I can't make out what book Lennon was reading.
  • "We were hoping you would come on your own" - first reference to choice/free will.
  • Oh yea: What was it that Dogen want to talk to about to Jack alone before Sayid came back to life? Or did we just need a little conflict to be dramatically interrupted by a resurrection?
  • "We didn't do anything to him" - Dude, you electrocuted him and burned him with a hot poker! Go ahead and argue that it was necessary, but don't deny it didn't happen.
  • Dogen describes Sayid's condition as "keigansarete shimatta," (a form of the verb keigan suru) which his translator says means "infected," saying there's no literal translation. This could be translated as "he has been turned into something." It could also mean "judged as being," which has interesting implications when you think about the Smoke Monster and its judgments.

    Source: Kulturblog

  • "Because it won't work unless he takes it willingly and he won't take it willingly from us."
  • Pill as redemption: obvious guilt-trip/con game.
  • "The infection will spread" - in Sayid or too other people?

T1 Temple Spring:
  • "I remember being shot" - echoes Flock's "I remember dying."
  • Sayid trusts Jack

T1 Jungle:
  • Jin wants to find Sun.

T2 LA:
  • Adoptive mother losing her husband: Unknown force making sure Claire2 raises Aaron2?
  • The adoptive mother's name is "Lindsey Baskum", an anagram for "Used by Malkins", the psychic who got Claire to fly to LA.
  • If Kate2 hadn't returned would Claire2 have given birth at the bus stop?

T1 Dharma Barracks:
  • I got nothing.

T2 Hospital:
  • Man. Claire2 was just annoying.
  • Ethan2 was still kinda creepy, though not murderous or kidnappy.
  • Kate2 has a flash when Claire2 mentions Aaron's name.

T1 Dharma Dock:
  • Kate wants to find Claire and reunite her and Aaron.
  • Sawyer realizes he's partially to blame for Juliet dying. Here comes the guilt.
  • No Skate for you!

T1 Dogen's Office:
  • Dogen: "I was brought here, like everyone else.

    Everyone? Were none of the Others born on the Island? Was Ben rebelling against something that had always happened? What about Ethan, Miles, and Charlotte?

  • Dogen implied that he was brought to the Island just like Jack was. This implies that Jack could become an Other as Dogen did.
  • "There isn't any time" - lame excuse.
  • Jack's not giving anybody any pills until he gets some goddamn ANSWERS. I know how you feel buddy.
  • I love that Jack took the pill. It's as if he said "I'll see your bullshit mind-games and raise you a I'm-batshit-crazy, your move".
  • How cool would it have been if Jack had palmed the pill and conned Dogen into believing he had swallowed it?
  • Dogen had to tell Jack something, otherwise Jack could just take the pill again.
  • Dogen said the pill is poison. He could be lying.

T2 Hospital
  • The date on the ultrasound is all screwed up. Just let it go.
  • The pattern on Claire2's hospital gown is an eight-sided "snowflake" - Dharma reference?
  • Kate in T1 also used the alias "Joan Hart".
  • Joan Hart in the movie Damien: Omen II discovered the identity of the 13-year-ol Antichrist. She got her eyes pecked out and run over by a truck. This doesn't mean Aaron is EVIL.
  • Is Kate innocent in T2? I seem to recall her admitting to killing her stepfather in T1 but in T2 she keeps asking people if they'll believe her if she says she's innocent. If she is innocent that would leave the question of who blew up her stepfather's apprentice.

T1 Dogen's Office:
  • At the end of the episode, Dogen tells Jack that Sayid has been "meisareta," a passive form of the verb "meisuru". The translator says this means "claimed," but a more literal translation would be "stamped, engraved or inscribed." Dogen explains that "there is a darkness growing in him," and tells Jack that the same thing happened to his sister, referring, we can only assume, to Claire (Jack's half-sister). How does Dogen know Claire, let alone that Claire is Jack's half-sister?

    Source: Kulturblog

  • Jack learned that Claire was his half-sister at the funeral for Christian Shepard after the Oceanic 6 left the Island.

T1 Jungle Jin/Aldo/Justin
  • Who the hell brought bear-traps to the Island?

Questions/Theories/Hairbrain Predictions

  • So the "Sickness" finally reappeared. What did we learn about it this episode? Nothing firm. We don't know how it's caught, though near-death experiences might be involved. We only have Dogen's word that Sayid and Claire are infected, and the Others lie about things all the time. We only have the testimony of insane Rousseau, and a short time-travel scene with Jin to show that the French Team were infected - you could make a good case that Rousseau was infected and/or just nuts and the French Team were just trying to defend themselves. We don't know where the Dharma Vaccine fits into this at all.

    Dogen's view that the Sickness is bad, and that "once it reaches his heart, everything your friend once was will be gone" could be one-sided or a lie. The Sickness could just make you immune to the Other's cultish brainwashing juju, and hence a threat.

  • Theory: Sayid failed Dogen's test by reacting normally to torture.
  • "Because it won't work unless he takes it willingly and he won't take it willingly from us." What does this mean? Sayid won't die if you force him to eat poison?
  • Is the whole torture/infected/pill/claire thing a test of Jack?
  • What about the psychic's warning that Aaron must not be "raised by another"? Is Aaron going to have to return to the Island? Or will Claire leave?
  • Were the visions of Claire warning Kate not to bring Aaron back to the Island done for MIB's benefit?
  • What happened on the Island 2004-2007 when all the major Losties were gone?
  • If the 2 timelines are equal in importance and "realness", why isn't T2 "bleeding through" to T1 the way T1 is into T2?
  • I figure there are 2 basic ways T1 and T2 can become 1 timeline:

    (1) Merging: Everyone in the world ends up with 2 sets of memories? My Head Hurts.

    (2) Destroy one timeline: Cue the Valenzetti equation.

  • This episode had lots of binding symbology: rings, handcuffs, Sayid's restraints
  • Theory: Flocke/MIB told the Others at the Statue: "I am very disappointed ... in all of you." What he's referring to is the Other's unquestioning servitude to Jacob. MIB wanted to kill Jacob to free himself from being a watchdog and he wants to free the Others.
  • The Losties have one advantage over the Others: They've seen Star Wars

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