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Charlotte remembers the special
'shroom chocolate she had as girl
L.A. - Marina
The episode begins with a shot of Sun's eye.
"Hi mommy, did you bust a cap in the bad man's ass yet?"
If Ben is still on his truth kick, he's messing with Kate/Aaron because Kate
isn't Aaron's mom, not to pressure/spook her.
Kate isn't Aaron's mother, Ben wasn't Alex's father.
Island - Friday, November 18, 1988
"As anyone watching the show has noticed, many of these events repeat
themselves. But why? Is this all the island knows? Lacombe plays violin, Charlie
plays guitar... were they both lured there specifically for the same purpose:
because a musician was needed to disable the jamming equipment in the underwater
station? And if so, did the island kill the both of them in order to remain
hidden? Because it sure seems like it did, or at least in the case of Charlie it
was trying to kill him while Desmond kept on preventing it."
"It's not a coincidence (because remember, nothing's a damn
coincidence on Lost) that this doomed group of Frenchies consisted of a pregnant
girl, a sarcastic blond tough guy, a string instrument player and a guy who
leaves no one behind. Ok, there were no incestuous siblings, no lame man finding
his sea legs, no angry little boy with a dog. It's not exactly the same. But
there is a befuddled Korean man trying desperately to comprehend a foreign
language. In fact it's the exact same befuddled Korean man, more confused now
than ever."
Which leads us to the grand question - why all the coincidences? Why the
parallels, the repeated lines, the six-degrees-of-Hugo-Reyes? Are these artistic
touches by TPTB or is there some reason for all the interconnectedness?
On November 15, 1988, the day the French sailed from Tahiti, the
Soviet space shuttle
Buran
made it's one and only spaceflight.
There are 6 people in
Rousseau's group:
Rousseau, Brennan, Lacombe, Montand, Nadine, Robert.
It can be argued that Jin enables the French to take the route they do
to the radio tower, but they were going to look for it anyway, and could have
gone the same way without him.
Alexandra is already named. How did Ben learn her name without either
overhearing this conversation or talking with Rousseau? Maybe Jin caught enough
to pass the name on to Ben in the past.
Listen, Jin says there's a monster, there's a goddamn monster. What do
you think made that noise, wandering hobos?
Nadine in the tree mirrors the Pilot after Smokey killed him.
A breeze starts up when Montand sees Smokey.
Did Jin save Rousseau's life by stopping her from entering the hole? Or would
Robert have stopped his pregnant girlfriend from following them?
"We don't leave anyone behind" - mirrors Jack getting Losties off Island
"Help me, I appear to be hurt. If you
would be so kind as to climb down this hole and assist me with my recently acquired
armlessness
I would be forever in your debt. I'm not a soul-stealing black cloud, I promise."
We don't know if this temple is the same
temple that Ben sent
the Others to for safety.
Island - November 1988, after monster attack
The pillar of smoke mirrors the one Rousseau lit to scare the Losties and
steal Aaron.
The music box is later repaired by Sayid.
Dancing couple on music box - marriage theme this episode.
Box of explosives
- from the Black Rock? The stenciling would indicate the French brought it.
Maybe Rousseau stashes it in the Black Rock later.
It's an open question, were the Frenchmen "sick"/controlled
dead-people (like Island-Yemi?) or did Rousseau go batshit crazy?
Robert seemed a bit too quick and easy with "It's not a monster, it's a security
system guarding that temple" - like that explains anything -
IT'S A GODDAMN HOWLING, CLANKING, MURDEROUS PILLAR OF BLACK SMOKE.
And Robert looked kind of murderous when he pulled the trigger.
Me, I'm going for possessed dead people - because how cool is that?
The
Zombie season is looking a little more likely.
Rousseau took the firing pin out of Robert's gun - crazy like a fox.
Rousseau: "You disappeared..." - This is the first indication of what
people see when someone else time-skips.
Why didn't Rousseau recognize Jin 16 years later? Maybe because after
that long on Craphole Island she was totally bugnuts?
Island - Unknown Date
This episode's tearful reunion: Sawyer and Jin.
We may never know why Charlotte speaks Korean.
L.A. - Marina
Damn, I was hoping Kate and Sayid would team up. I miss the old canny
fugitive-conwoman-'splody Kate.
Island - Unknown Date
If the time-skips are directed and purposeful, then this quick series
must be to kill Charlotte.
L.A. - Carpet Van
Ben: "What I'm doing is helping you! And if you had any idea what I've
had to do to keep you safe - to keep your friends safe - then you'd never stop
thanking me!" - Great, Ben is reduced to trying to guilt-trip the kids
into behaving until they get to Grandma's house.
Yes Ben, what exactly have you been doing to keep us safe, and from who?
Obvious questions that never get asked - #237
Island - The Future (post 2005)
Charlotte warning Jin mirrors phantom Claire warning Kate.
Someone Charlotte knew almost married an American, and she's an expert on
Carthage, which was located in what is now Tunisia - home to teleported
Polar Bears and Ben Linuses. The Carthaginians, like the Dharma Initiative,
were wiped out by Latin-speakers.
That time-skip was a clear message: Abandon the Redhead.
She's told Locke to find the Well, her job here is done.
Charlotte was a big fan of Geronimo Jackson. Juliet blinks when she
hears the name, does it mean something to her?
How does Charlotte know there was a well at the site of the Orchid?
Did she see it as a child?
It must be after December 2005, the Orchid station is in ruins.
Island - Before Dharma (pre-1970s)
Now that they've found the Orchid, they skip to a time when
the Well existed. The time-skips are not random.
Charlotte "grew up" on the Island. She may or may not have
been born there. She pointedly does not say that her parents
were part of the Dharma Initiative, only that Dharma was on the Island when
she was.
Charlotte met Faraday on the Island during the Dharma period.
If they don't bury Charlotte will Smokey be able to move her around like the
other dead people from the island? - From
Gitsie Girl
Jin: "No! Stop! You don't bring Sun back."
Locke: "No, I have to bring them all back, that's...that's how it works."
Jin: [Incredulous] "How you know?" - Holy crap, a direct question!!
Locke: "I...I just know. " - And Locke still doesn't see the puppet strings.
Jin is having none of this "faith" bullshit.
Jin gives Locke the ring to prove he's dead and to keep Sun off the Island.
Ben uses the ring to prove Jin's alive and to get Sun back to the Island.
Locke promised not to bring Sun and Ji Yeon back to the Island.
Does he intend to and does he keep this promise?
Jin's ring - marriage theme.
Island - After Well, Before Orchid
Juliet thanks Locke for what he's doing mirrors Ben getting no thanks
for his "helping" the O6.
Too Much Fun = Creepy Grin
"Where would be the fun in that?" - I think the stress of doing
the Island's bidding is beginning to push Locke around the bend.
Locke climbing down the Well mirrors French climbing down the Smokey
hole and Kate going down the Swan station.
The flash comes up out of the Well.
The time-skip could have waited till Locke was lower or on the ground.
Was it's purpose to break his leg? Why would someone/something want to
send a crippled Locke back to the world? It'll be harder for him to gather
the O6. How did Locke/Bentham hang himself with one very bad leg?
Locke buried under time-shifted Well mirrors Nikki and Paulo
being buried alive.
Did somebody find the rope sticking out of the ground and wonder
where it went? Is that why there's a well there?
They must have gone back a long way in time, if the Well was
built around the same time as the Smoke Monster Temple and/or
the 4-toed statue
We never heard Christian tell Locke that Locke had to move the Island:
Christian: "We don't have time for this. The people from the boat are already
on their way back, and once they get here, all of these questions won't matter
one bit. So why don't you ask the one question that does matter?"
Locke: "How do I save the island?"
......
Ben: "Did he tell you what we're supposed to do?"
Locke: "He did."
Ben: "Well?"
Locke: "He wants us to move the island. "
Was this a just a case of miscommunication or did Ben have a reason
for being the one to move the Island? Did he want to get off the Island so he could
kill Penny?
Locke: "But Ben said he knew how to do it! He told me that I had to stay here
and lead his people."
Christian didn't tell Locke how to move the Island! Sweet Jeebus,
even the undead masterminds on this Island can't communicate worth a damn.
And of course Locke didn't bother to ask. That would make to much sense.
"Move the Island? Sure thing, no problem, do it all the time, I'll get right on it. See you later."
Christian says Locke has to get "Everyone who left". That would
include Aaron, and might include Lapidus and Ji Yeon.
On the other hand, Christian says that Locke has to get all his "friends" together.
That's why they call what sacrifice?
Christian never tells Locke what bringing back "everyone who left"
will accomplish.
Christian can hold lanterns but he can't help Locke?
"Say hello to my son" - mirrors Faraday telling Desmond to find
his mother. It's interesting that "Christian" is assuming the identity of the
dead body he's in.
The FDW isn't frozen anymore.
Christian came to the Island in a coffin, now it looks like
Locke will come back in one.
"Locke lived his life with hopes of becoming a great leader.
At the end of Season Four, his dream appeared to come true. The Island had cast
out his two rivals, Jack and Ben, and chosen him to lead the people left behind.
The ending of This Place is Death reveals the true nature of the destiny he had
been seeking for so long. He was chosen not as a leader, but as a martyr, the
sacrifice that the Island demanded. His whole life had been pointing him towards
his one great accomplishment, his death. In possibly the most heartbreaking
moment of the entire series, Locke accepts his fate, without a single complaint.
He loses everything in one scene, more than any character in this epic story
called Lost. Locke loses his friends as the Island buries him under its surface;
he once again loses the power to walk, in a remarkably painful fashion; he loses
his beloved Island, never to return to it in living form; and ultimately he will
lose his life. In return, he gains nothing, except the assurance that someone
believed in him."
I think the "time skips" are controlled and purposeful. The Leftbehinds
are being moved around in time in order to accomplish specific tasks.
First shift: Between 2001-2002: Tells the Leftbehinds that they
are time-travelling.
Second shift: 2005 or later: Locke has to get the watch and partial
instructions from Richard.
Third shift: Between 2001-2002: Faraday tells
Desmond to find Faraday's mother in the future. ***
Fourth shift: 1954: Widmore has to meet Miles, Faraday, and Charlotte, so
that he picks them for his freighter's science team. Locke has to give Richard
the watch and tell him Locke's birthday. Locke has to disappear in front of
the Others, creating his "specialness". Faraday has to get his mother interested
in time travel.
Fifth shift: Monday, 1 November 2004: Locke sees the column of light
from the Swan hatch and Sawyer watches Kate help Claire deliver Aaron.
I admit it, I see no purpose for this skip beyond fanboy coolness.
Sixth shift: January 1, 2005 or later: There are boats on the beach they
can use.
Seventh shift: Friday, 18 November 1988: Jin is moved so he can
be rescued by the French. Jin takes them towards the Radio Tower, so
that the French can be attacked by Smokey. Jin saves Rousseau from
going down the hole.
Eighth shift: Between January 3-17, 1989: No task I can see, though
maybe Jin needs to know about the "sickness" or Rousseau needed to
be made more crazy.
Ninth, Tenth and Eleventh shifts: Unknown : Disconnects Charlotte
from time so that she can remember the Well and tell Locke.
Twelfth shift: After the Orchid greenhouse is destroyed: The Orchid
has to be there so that they know they've found it.
Thirteenth shift: Between the time the Well and the Orchid are built:
Locke has to go down the well to get to the FDW.
Fourteenth shift: Before the Well is built: Locke has to be cut off from
the Leftbehinds. Maybe his injury serves some purpose and/or this
is the time that Christian is waiting for him.
***Big Prediction Time:
This is the exception that proves the rule.
Faraday DID NOT talk to Desmond in the original "supposed to happen"
timeline.
If he had, Desmond would have
remembered meeting him at the Swan when he meets him again
at the helicopter. Why Desmond "remembers" the meeting 3 years
in Faraday's (non-time-travelling) future instead of only a few hours after
escaping the Island I have no idea. But if this
meeting was the reason for this time skip then I THINK THAT FUTURE
FARADAY AND/OR DESMOND IS CONTROLLING THE TIME TRAVEL:
Faraday because of his scientific knowledge, Desmond because of his
"unique" properties. One or both of them is making sure that the Leftbehinds
go to the times in the past they have to go to (because they did go, it did happen)
because if they don't then the past they came from won't exist, and that would
be bad. We know Faraday spends time working at the Orchid station, so this is
where the time skips are controlled.
This prediction is quite tragic (which adds to it's probability, to my way of thinking)
because I think that whomever is controlling the
time skips deliberately unhinges Charlotte to allow Locke to get to the Well.
The way I see it, at the very least Locke (and probably Jin and the Science Team)
and maybe all the Leftbehinds (and probably the O6 too) were "destined" to
go time-travelling, whether Charlie killed the jamming and let Widmore know
where the Island was or not. Even in a timeline where the Losties don't find
Naomi and don't contact the freighter, and don't get in a escalating conflict
with Ben and the Others, some or all of the Losties would have to time travel
in order to "create" the past that underpins the present. I've made my brain
hurt very much imagining the alternative plot that allows them to time travel
without Ben turning the FDW. I do know that if they didn't leave Sun
would have died in childbirth. And the lightning that was supposed to kill
Charlie should have killed Claire and Aaron too.
I think that the reason the O6 have to return is that they are needed to
do their own time skipping tasks. And if Faraday/Desmond are controlling
the time skips, using the Losties to properly create the past, then they themselves
are creating their past - not just mirroring, but a hall of mirrors.
"If I'm right, this will create the fifth confirmed
predestination loop on the show:
That the time-skipping Lostaways themselves assured the crash of Oceanic 815
by giving the Others 50 years to plan for it and ensure its occurrence.
Locke was the one who first made Alpert interested in Locke, eventually
precipitating his arrival on the Island and his seeming ascension to Others
leadership.
Daniel cemented his own grooming as a temporal troubleshooter by
demonstrating to his future mother, Eloise Hawking, that time travel was
possible.
Charlotte confirms that it was Dan Faraday whose warning to stay away from
the Island on pain of death no doubt had the reverse effect, guaranteeing it.
It was Hurley's own voice heard by Leonard Simms and Sam Toomey at their
listening station broadcasting the Numbers which found their way to Hurley,
allowing him to win the lottery and secure his place on flight 815.
This would also strongly imply that 1) the O6 will get back to the Island, and
2) that they're going to spend some time with the DHARMA Initiative in the past.
I'm also betting that we'll see at least a few more of these loops before we're
done.
Again, I put it to you that the big question we all need to be asking about time
travel is, "from how far into the future have time travelers come back, leaving
a warning of their existence?" I'd be willing to bet that at least the Island
and Eloise Hawking have knowledge from farther in the future than the O6's
departure on their return trip to the Island."
If Smokey's Temple is the same as the Other's safe refuge Temple, are
the Others "sick" the way the French were?
Theme of Marriage and Divorce
"Welcome to the messy divorce season of Lost. See: an Island
separated from its place in space; souls ripped from their designated points in
time; a fellowship of castaways pulled apart, a band break-up of such unholy
wrongness in the eyes of almighty destiny that unless they are reunited...well,
"God help us all," as we've repeatedly been told this year. (If only someone
had used that argument on the Beatles 30 years ago...) "This Place Is Death"
brought out the theme of dissolution in bold relief, as unions of all sorts were
dissolved in various ways. Charlotte died on Daniel. Danielle Rousseau and her
French dude, Robert, decoupled with shotguns and madness. Jin turned in his
wedding ring. John Locke split from the Island. And good lord, did you see that
arm get ripped off poor Montand?! Did you heart the wet icky splooge of his limb
being shorn away?! "Put asunder," indeed."
For a entity of such stealth, speed, and power, Smokey hasn't
shown itself to be an effective killer. I suppose a lot of this is due
to dramatic considerations - you don't have much of a story if
Smokey kills off most of the characters.
Also, if Smokey is too powerful, Widmore wouldn't pose a
threat.
But even considering this, I think that Smokey deliberately
"played" with the French to lure them to the temple. It could have
killed Montand just like it killed Nadine and then gone after the rest
of the group. If it is just a "security system" why does it drag some
people into holes instead of just kill them?
"The Great Radzinsky used a different name for the
creature, Cerberus, which offers another clue as to its purpose. In Greek
mythology, Cerberus was name given to the three-headed canine beast which guards
the gates of Hades, to prevent souls from escaping. No one who crosses into the
Underworld is ever supposed to return to the world of the living. Lost's version
of Cerberus seems to serve that same function for the Island. It possesses other
abilities as well: the ability to re-animate corpses (Yemi and perhaps
Christian), and to infect living bodies (Montand and Robert). In the seminal
episode Walkabout, John Locke stared down the Monster face-to-face. Since that
point, Locke has taken it upon himself to perform the task designated to
Cerberus: to ensure that no one ever leaves the Island. It was Locke who
eventually smashed that same transceiver, who detonated the Flame station,
destroyed the submarine, killed Naomi, and turned a gun on his friends as they
trekked to the radio tower. Locke may not be 'infected' in the same manner as
Robert, but he has been acting as the willing agent of Cerberus for some time.
John himself has become another security system of sorts, assigned to protect
the Island."
"TENAHA --- A two-decade-old state law that grants authorities the
power to seize property used in crimes is wielded by some agencies against
people who never are charged with - much less convicted of - criminal activity.
Law enforcement authorities in this East Texas town of 1,000 people seized
property from at least 140 motorists between 2006 and 2008, and, to date, filed
criminal charges against fewer than half, according to a review of court
documents by the San Antonio Express-News.
Virtually anything of value was up for grabs: cash, cell phones, personal
jewelry, a pair of sneakers, and often, the very car that was being driven
through town.
Some affidavits filed by officers relied on the presence of seemingly innocuous
property as the only evidence that a crime had occurred.
Linda Dorman, an Akron, Ohio, great-grandmother had $4,000 in cash taken from
her by local authorities when she was stopped while driving through town after
visiting Houston in April 2007. Court records make no mention that anything
illegal was found in her van. She's still hoping for the return of what she
calls "her life savings."
Dorman's attorney, David Guillory, calls the roadside stops and seizures in
Tenaha "highway piracy," undertaken by a couple of law enforcement officers
whose agencies get to keep most of what was seized.
Guillory is suing officials in Tenaha and Shelby County on behalf of Dorman and
nine other clients whose property was confiscated. All were African-Americans
driving either rentals or vehicles with out-of-state plates.
Guillory alleges in the lawsuit that while his clients were detained, they were
presented with an ultimatum: waive your rights to your property in exchange for
a promise to be released and not be criminally charged."
I'm not crazy in love with this episode, and I'll go crazy if I'm always 3 weeks behind
with my homebrew recaps, so for this episode you get the quick and dirty version:
Sayid, strangling sinister dart-men with his own IV line!! When Lost
wraps up somebody better put Naveen in some big budget flicks, he's worth it.
The left-behind Losties don't know when they are, they don't know what they're
doing, they don't know why...the usual story.
Jin is alive. I like Jin.
Say hello to the nice french people. They're all doomed-most of them sooner,
Danielle quite a bit later.
I think Ben spends the whole episode telling the truth.
The name on Ben's carpet van is an anagram for "reincarnation".
The longer you've spent on the Island, the quicker you start to bleed out
when time-skipping. This mean Miles and Charlotte were probably born on
the Island.
I would buy the complete box set of a show on the "History of Landscaping"
if the hosts
were Evangeline Lilly and Elizabeth Mitchell.
Note: To reduce typing I'm going to refer to the people who brought
and installed the bomb on the Island simply as "the Army".
Philipines - 2005
Dez and Penny have a wee bairn...
Penny's Boat - 2009
...named Charlie. Named after Charlie Pace or Charles Widmore?
Desmond:"I have to do this, Penny" - Moral imperative or
Course Correction/Destiny?
Island - 1954
Two more anono-Losties bite the dust. If I was really ambitious I would
try to do the math and see how many spear-carriers are left.
The
Claymore mines are an anachronism - they weren't in use in 1954.
Since Miles can read the side that says "Front Toward Enemy" he's on
the lethal side. Miles would be dead, jumping or not.
What is up with the FPS
-gunsight-point of view? Is there some reason for it?
"You just couldn't stay away, could you?" - She hasn't met Faraday
before, she thinks the Losties are with the Army.
England 2009
Desmond: "I know how insane it sounds" - Hasn't Penny been
brought up to speed on how insane EVERYTHING is?
Desmond DOES NOT promise to not go back to the Island.
Island - 1954
---Faraday Miles Charlotte
Lostpedia
estimates that there are at most 3 redshirts left, based on
Ellie's statement that there were 20 Losties at the start of the
beach arrow attack.
Why does Ellie think that 20 unarmed people without equipment or uniforms,
who can't even light a fire, were with the Army?
Ellie's going to need some dental work, grinding her molars like that.
Ellie: "Once we leave here, I will be out of control of what happens to
you. But if you cooperate now, things will go much easier for you." - This
is the first of the references to the Other's chain of command/leadership
this episode.
---Locke Sawyer Juliet
Is there something going on with Time?
No, I mean something else.
The 3 in uniform are Mattingly,Jones and Cunningham. Mattingly is dead.
Locke's military hobbies come in handy.
The uniforms are Others. We know this because they speak
Latin. Wait, What?
---Faraday Miles Charlotte
Faraday doesn't even blink at Miles' ghost-whispering. He even wants
to know if the dead know what year it is. He must know about Miles' ability.
Richard has big forearms. He must work out.
Oxford - 2009
Now that he's off the Island, Desmond is free to dress like an
Italian gigolo, or possibly
Dr. Who.
The Oxford clerk is the same as the Oceanic airlines clerk who allowed
Hurley on flight 815.
Why can't Desmond remember the year he visited Faraday?
I think it's a little too convenient that Faraday's lab is still there
3+ years later, complete with talkative janitor to fill in the blanks. If Oxford
is so ashamed of Faraday or has been bought off by Widmore why wouldn't
they take the logical step of cleaning out the lab? I hope this is somebody
leaving bread crumbs and not the writers being lazy.
Island - 1954
---Locke Sawyer Juliet
Juliet: "Others 101. Gotta learn Latin--language of the enlightened."
"The intellectual and philosophical developments of that
age (and their impact in moral, social, and political reform) aspired
toward more freedom for common people based on self-governance, natural rights,
natural law, central emphasis on liberty, individual rights, reason, common
sense, and the principles of deism. These principles were a revolutionary
departure from theocracy, autocracy, oligarchy, aristocracy, and the
divine right of kings. The Enlightenment marks a principled departure from
the Middle Ages of religious authority, absolute state power, guild-based
economic systems, and censorship of ideas toward an era of rational
discourse and personal judgment, republicanism, liberalism, naturalism,
scientific authority, and modernity."
"Enlightenment broadly means wisdom or understanding enabling
clarity of perception. However, the English word covers two concepts which can
be quite distinct: religious or spiritual enlightenment and secular or
intellectual enlightenment. This can cause confusion, since those who claim
intellectual enlightenment often reject spiritual concepts altogether.
In religious use, enlightenment is most closely associated with South and East
Asian religious experience, being used to translate words such as (in Buddhism)
bodhi or satori, or (in Hinduism) moksha. The concept does also have parallels
in the Abrahamic religions (in the Kabbalah tradition in Judaism, in Christian
mysticism or Gnosticism, and in the Sufi tradition of Islam)."
Locke doesn't know Latin, kinda strange for the leader of the others.
Locke: "I suggest you talk to us. Once we get back to the creek and meet
up with the rest of our people, there's gonna be a lot of anger directed at you
for attacking them. " - Mirrors what Ellie said to Faraday's group.
Once again Locke can't kill in cold blood. Plus, Widmore can't die in 1954
because Widmore didn't die in 1954.
Why not take Locke, Sawyer, and Juliet to the camp? It's not like the
3 of them pose a major threat. They could come to some arrangement.
Teresa's House - 2009
Faraday's old lab assistant has Minkowski's syndrome.
Widmore funded Faraday. How many of Faraday's's ideas come from
Widmore?
Teresa's sister tells a sad story, but we don't know if it's
true, or the full story.
Teresa's last name might be a shout out to
the English Philosopher
Herbert Spencer
In the bookcase behind Teresa is a "Lost Book":
The Lost Book is a common way to refer to the Inventio Fortunata, a book
allegedly written by a monk from Oxfordand later recovered by a man named
Jacobus Cnoyen, who popularized it
before losing it again. This book that didn't want to stay found described the
North Pole as a magnetic island surrounded by a violent maelstrom, and helpfully
described this magnetic island as being made from "Rupes Nigra", or in Lost
lingo - Black Rock. And yeah, I'm going on the assumption that absolutely none
of this is random.
Eloise Hawking is the old woman/Ben Ally/Time-cop. Faraday named his
mentally time-travelling rat "Eloise". Widmore says that Faraday's mother is
in L.A., Ms. Hawking is in L.A.. Q.E.D.: Ms. Hawking is Ellie is
Faraday's mother.
Could Widmore be his father? And who is Penny's mother?
Richard: "We gave them the opportunity to leave the island peacefully. They weren't
willing to do that, so I was forced to kill 'em. All of 'em."
Faraday: "Forced?"
Richard: "Yeah."
Faraday: "By whom? "
Richard: "You answer to someone, don't you? You follow a chain
of command, right?"
Widmore refers to Desmond as a "colleague". From him this is
high praise indeed.
Desmond told Widmore the deal and he's sticking to it. He's not
going to answer any questions.
Widmore knowing the address for Faraday's mother brings
up a whole host of issues.
Why does Widmore think that Desmond is delivering a message?
Island - 1954
Locke knows the magic word, but he's lying. Jacob didn't send
him, >2005-Richard did.
Penny's Boat
Oh Desmond, you are so screwed.
Island - 1954
I was expecting the compass to have some significance to 1954-Richard,
but it doesn't mean anything to him. Instead, Locke and Richard are
completing a time loop.
Richard never actually says or indicates that he is unfamiliar or
disbelieving in Time Travel - he might just be wary of Locke.
Richard never told Locke that Locke was the Other's leader, at least
that we've seen. Ben told Locke he was the leader.
Richard: "Look, I... certainly don't want to contradict myself, but... we
have a very specific process for selecting our leadership, and it starts at a
very, very young age."
Richard might be referring to the testing of children to see if they are
reincarnations or experiencing transfered memories from time-travelling
future selves.
Note that he says "leadership", not "leader".
Time travel screws with causality something fierce, but on the first
level the reason Richard showed up at Locke's birth, and the Others regarded
Locke as "special" is because Locke disappeared into thin air after telling Richard
to attend his birth. To a large degree, Locke is special because Locke said
he was special.
Considering the higher level, doesn't it seem as if the time skips are
planned, especially in light of "The Little Prince"? If so, then who or
whatever is controlling the time skips caused Locke to be considered
"special" by the Others
How did Richard know when to go help Locke at the beechcraft?
Locke told him in 1954 where he would be after Ethan shot him, but Richard would
have to know the exact date to be able to help Locke. Locke never knew the date.
Did Richard camp out at the Beechcraft for years?
Locke's whole mission to return the O6 could be part of a loop. Richard tells
Locke he has to get his friends back, Locke tells Richard that Richard told Locke
to GHFB, rinse and repeat. One possible problem with this is Richard telling Locke
that he'll have to die - Locke didn't talk about this in 1954. But if Richard didn't gain
information about Locke's mission from a source other than Locke then the whole
idea came out of nowhere.
Desmond is going back to the Island. If all the foreshadowing about
"never going back" isn't enough, the fact that the rules don't apply
to Desmond should make him essential to any attempt to save the world,
or whatever.
I don't think they buried Jughead under the Swan or the Orchid.
If it was under the Swan then it's gone-and it's too obvious.
With the FDW already under the
Orchid who would be stupid enough to put an atomic weapon near it?
My bet is that the bomb is under the Arrow. If the bomb is under the Swan
then that would suggest that the Losties have to stop Locke from not
pushing the button.
Not My Observation: The Others are like hermit crabs - they inhabit
the structures (and clothes) of whoever they kill. This ties in with their
habit of disguising themselves - as survivors, balloon pilots, Dharma members,
seabilly pirates, etc. But we still know almost nothing about their true nature.
And it still drives me nuts that no one has bothered to ask Juliet any direct
questions about who the Others are, or Daniel about his lengthy research on
Dharma. I can accept lots of reasons for them not to give extensive answers,
but the pervasive incuriosity is nagging. If this is a character-driven drama,
then having stupid characters is a liability.
Widmore was an Other. This raises the possibility that we're looking at
an Other civil war.
We never see any of the 1954 Others learning any of the Losties' names
except Locke's.
Widmore could start showing up in Locke's past.
"Not only is Richard's age a constant, his name is always the
same too. Years, decades, even centuries pass, but Richard is always Richard.
This is the Ying to the multiple-names Yang (Dr. Candle for example) we've seen
throughout lost."
Richard and the Others have known about Locke time-travelling since 1954.
Why didn't Ethan recognize Locke at the beechcraft? Didn't he ever hear the story
about John Locke, the bald old guy who, back in 1954, said that Jacob had sent
him, that he was the leader of the Others, and predicted his own birth, before
disappearing into thin air? Of course Ethan had to shoot Locke, to
prevent him from reaching and dying in the beechcraft, and so he would be
waiting for Richard to tell him to return the O6.
Richard: "The only way to save the Island, John, is to get your people
back here--the ones who left." - not save the world, or save your friends
- save the Island. There's no guarantee that this would be a good thing for
the Losties.
Where (or when) did Desmond bollocks up the timeline? Was it when
he saved Charlie, Claire, and Aaron from being hit by lightning? This is the
theory that supposes Desmond was made "unique" by destruction of the Swan.
It also assumes that Claire and Aaron are "supposed" to be dead. Is this why
Claire is in Jacob's cabin?
Or is Desmond's timeline altering act his turning of the failsafe key?
The Other's speak Latin. When the hell did this start? Because we've had
dozens of scenes where Others talk privately among themselves, and no Latin.
The only way this works is if the Others have learned Latin just to use in
situations where they might be overheard.
It's the language of the enlightened. It's also the language of the Romans,
who practiced slavery and enjoyed watching people and animals fight to death.
The 500lb gorilla in this episode, in more ways than one, is Jughead the bomb.
In 1954, one can hardly imagine something that the U.S. Government
values more than one of it's atomic weapons.
Being a high-value asset, how the hell did the Army decide to test
Jughead on an Island that is near impossible to find and land on? How
did they even know about the Island in the first place?
Atomic tests aren't done by 18 people-try hundreds, with lots and
lots of ships, all visiting Craphole Island.
If the Army lost an atomic bomb
to an unknown hostile party in the middle of the Cold War
I think I can safetly assume that they would freak the fuck out.
Questions would be asked, like "where is the goddamn Island?" and
"who decided on this island?". The Army would have an intense and
ongoing interest in finding the Island again.
Theories:
The writers have screwed up. I'm still waiting to learn how
the Dharma Initiative found the Island and moved hundreds of
people and tons of stuff onto it, and how the Island became
hidden afterwards, without a FDW. And if Widmore was an
Other, and he was behind Dharma, why didn't they do better
in fighting them?
Somebody wanted the bomb-The Island, Jacob, Rocket J.
Squirrel: somebody with Juice - enough to arrange for a small
group of Army chumps to take Jughead to Island secretly.
The Others weren't defending the Island from invaders, they
were eliminating the delivery boys.
I take the contrarian view of John Locke - he is not a hero. Sympathetic, interesting,
finely-acted, but not the "good guy" he so desperately wants to be. Ever since he
regained the use of his legs and "looked into the eye of this island" (the smoke
monster, an amorphous people-shredder, to be exact) Locke has
valued the Island over people. He has lied, assaulted, exploded, and killed in
service to his faith. What exactly, if anything, he knows about the desires and
goals of the Island (if they exist at all) is unknown; Locke has never seen fit
to detail any communications from the Island. I would argue that Locke's situation
is worse than being in thrall to some semi-godlike geographical oddity - Locke is
the slave to an idea - his concept of the Island as a place "where miracles happen".
Not that serving the Island
is much better: It apparently demands human sacrifices, keeps people alive until
they do it's will, kills pregnant women and unborn children,
and has no problem with the death and pain it's followers commit in it's name.
In case you haven't guessed, I seriously doubt that the Island is worth serving,
or that the Others are "the good guys".
Episode 3 of season 5 is entitled ''Jughead.'' Wikipedia
tells us that the word ''Jughead'' can refer to many things. Jughead can refer
to a search engine. So maybe ''Jughead'' means that the Island is zipping
through the world wide web of time looking for something. (Free amateur porn,
probably. Naughty Island!) Jughead also can refer to a progressive rock band
founded by Ty Tabor, also the lead singer of the Christian prog-rock band King's
X, whose first album, Out of the Silent Planet, was named after a science
fiction book by Lost-linked author, C.S. Lewis. And Jughead can refer to the
Canadian name for the Kool-Aid mascot, that half-man, half-pitcher creature that
smashes through walls and growls ''Oh yeaah!'' Kinda like Smokey.
Of course, Jughead also refers to the Archie Comics character of the same name.
Curious fellow, this Jughead. For quite a while, nobody knew his real first
name. Kept it a secret. Ironically, in tonight's episode, you will meet two
characters whose first names are deliberately withheld from us until late in the
hour. One made me gasp; the other made me get all misty. Jughead also wore a
sweatshirt with the letter ''S'' on the front, and I'm told that for many years,
the comics kept the significance of this conspicuous detail as secret. I'm
really no Archie fan, so I can't tell you what the 'S' stands for... but I'm
going take a stab and say it's not Smokey.
"That was the final straw. Jeanne wasn't going just going to
stand there and let some jackoff stick his gay-ass flag on the walls of her
town. She got super pissed off, grabbed the closest thing to her - which just
so happened to be a gleaming fucking hatchet - sprinted across the wall like a
homicidal Olympian and lunged at the stupid asshole.
The poor knight didn't even know what hit him. One minute he was standing
there, crotch-chopping in the general direction of the citizens of Beauvais, and
the next minute this crazy bitch was assaulting him with a hatchet. Jeanne
smashed this guy in the shoulder with her axe with enough force to decapitate a
rabid Minotaur, and her second swing sent the hatchet blade right into his
throat. As the guy stood there, his eyes slowly glazing over, Jeanne kicked him
square in the chest, sending him flying off the wall to his death below. Then
she pulled the flag up out of the ground, broke the flagpole over her knee and
hurled it down into the moat on top of him.
After seeing this display of badassitude so completely xtreme that it generated
its own gravitational field, the defenders of Beauvais got super omega pumped up
with the energy to punch boulders, play middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears
and pull all the stuffing out of their couches with their teeth. The men
defending the city fought like they were totally wigged out on a Satanic
concoction of Red Bull and crack, killing every Burgundian they could get their
hands on and chucking their bodies over the walls of the city. Jeanne continued
to flip out like a goddamned ninja on the invaders, swinging her axe like a
bloodthirsty lumberjack, and before long Charles the Bold was boldly running
away from the ever-swinging death-bringing hatchet arm of our insanely badass
heroine. He never returned, and met a miserable end five years later when he
was brained with a halberd and his dead body was eaten by wild animals.
When King Louis XI heard about how this one tough broad had single-handedly
turned the tide of the battle by hacking up some dude with a hatchet and biting
his flag in half with her teeth he couldn't help but get psyched up as well. He
threw a parade for her, lavished her with gifts, and gave her the right to marry
the man of her choosing, which was kind of a big deal back in the days of
arranged marriages when most women were bought and sold like livestock at the
county fair. To this day, there is a statue of Jeanne in the town she so
valiantly fought to defend, and in celebration of her heroism a parade known as
the "Procession of the Assault takes place every year on the anniversary of the
battle. "
"The brand is a prop developed by Independent Studio Services, and is also seen in the shows Dexter and Rules of Attraction."
Hurley: "You know what, dude? I'm gonna remember this. And someday, you're
gonna need my help, and I'm telling you right now... you're not gettin' it."
This isn't quite a lie, just an idle threat. Hurley spends the whole episode
helping Sayid.
L.A. - 2008
Dead people can give good advice. Still don't know what exactly
they are - hallucinations, manifestations of the Island, ghosts working
for the Island...
It's nice to see Michelle Rodriguez being a good sport about police and
traffic stops.
Dead Anna Lucia should have told Hurley to call Ben's cell # and to
go with him back to the Island. It would have made a short episode though.
"Libby says hi" - Kind of creepy.
Beach Camp - 1954
Rose is still my least favorite character. Frogurt isn't even close.
If only she would D.I.A.F.
Gas from the Zodiac could help start a fire.
Miles and Sawyer - dueling smartasses.
What did Faraday do that took 2 hours? His talk with Desmond didn't
take that long.
Faraday has a sextant,
or a least something complicated looking that he's going to use to calculate a new
escape bearing.
If it is a sextant, then he's going
to have trouble determining the longitude by
celestial navigation,
because he needs to know the exact time.
Juliet says she'll get the water and we cut to Hurley throwing water in
Sayid's face. I think they're telling us the O6 and the Island Losties
are still connected.
L.A. - 2008
Sunglasses on unconscious Sayid = Weekend at Bernie's
I "Heart" my Shih-Tzu:
The Shih Tzu is reported to be the oldest and smallest of the Tibetan holy dogs
...
Recent DNA analysis confirms that the ancestors of today's Shih Tzu breed are
the most ancient dog breeds
Dream Police
by Cheap Trick is playing in the gas station.
Kate just misses Sayid and Hurley at the gas-station. Is the Island
manipulating coincidence to get them to return?
Watching Kate on the phone at the gas station it strikes me that
Evangeline Lilly has become a better actress.
Ben has a package hidden in the airvent of the motel room.
Possible contents:
Medusa Spiders that are keeping Locke in a state of suspended animation.
Ben: "And find yourself a suitcase. If there's anything in this life you want,
pack it in there... because you're never coming back." - Odd turn of phrase.
I'm maintaining my own personal fantasy that Ben driving Locke's casket
around in a carpet van is a tribute to the
Rug Suckers, who-along with the Kolodny Brothers, aid Buckaroo Banzai and
the Hong Kong Cavaliers in the raid on Yoyodyne. Apophenia, indeed.
Ben pointedly does not answer Jack's question about Locke being dead.
Hurley's dad likes caviar on his ham sandwich, which is odd.
Is Expose' a clue that medusa spiders have been used on Locke?
Hurley lugging Sayid around mirrors Ben transporting Locke.
Hurley's dad is not that bright.
Sayid goes from couch to pool table to couch again. I think they had to
move him to the pool table so the cops wouldn't see him.
Hurley does not lie to his father. Everything he says in
this scene is true.
Aaron: "Can I push the button?" - sure, but sometimes you
can't stop.
Ben still has loyal minions in the outside world - Jill the butcher, Gabriel
and Jeffrey.
Ben: "Cut the man some slack. He's been through a lot. We all have."
- Sympathy for Jack from Ben is surprising. He's not exactly Mister Warmth.
Locke's body has to be kept safe. Safe from what?
Island, Night - 1954
Charlotte's showing more signs of Minkowski syndrome. Why
is she the only one?
Miles found a dead boar with his ghost talking ability.
Nice death for Frogurt - FIRE! Thwack!!
Sawyer grabs Juliet, he's still the selfless hero.
L.A.
Sun is muy creepy.
Sun's daughter is 3 years old, why is Sun showing Kate baby pictures?
Sun: "Wouldn't you do anything you had to in order to keep Aaron?"
mirrors Juliet: "Wouldn't you do anything to save Walt?"
Does Sayid not being dead on the couch mirror Locke not being
dead in Ben's care?
Jack never agreed to Hurley's Dad's request that he stay away from
Hurley, so he didn't lie.
Ben's tricksy mind must be spinning - he must be imagining a wide-awake
and anti-Ben Sayid talking to Jack
Mom: "A good guy doesn't kill anyone" - Her baby boy has
killed an Other. Just about everybody on Lost has killed somebody,
and we still don't know whether the Others are Good Guys or not.
Is it really lying that bothers Hurley or that he left his friends behind and
didn't try to help them?
Island - 1954
There's something going on with that thorn/twig stuck in Sawyer's foot -
I can't imagine they would make such a big point of showing it to us if it
weren't going to matter in the future. And I don't think he's going to lose
a toe and become the inspiration for the 4-toed statue.
If his foot gets infected we could have a
Philoctetes
reference.
Sawyer: "You don't have to be a wise-ass..." - Pot calling the kettle
black. It's interesting to watch how well Sawyer and Juliet get along, they're
such an odd pair.
"Jones":
"What are you doing on our Island!?" - Considered in
light of "Jughead", this is a bit of a stupid question. Either
the Losties are with the
US Army and are after the bomb or they're someone else and maybe "Jones"
and his group shouldn't have tried to kill them all/scatter them to the winds
before determing their identity.
They could have easily grabbed Miles when he was off by himself.
L.A.
Sayid is not a morning person.
Hot-Pocket Fu!
Poor Ben, he's the boy who cried wolf. He's lied and manipulated so many
times that when he is sincere Hurley doesn't believe him. And using Sayid as
an assassin has caused a chain-reaction that backfired on him.
The sad thing is that Hurley and
Ben both want to go back to the Island.
Ben: "You won't ever have to lie again." - That's laying it on
a bit thick.
Welcome to the new Lost, where Hurley outsmarts Ben.
Congratulations Ben, people would rather confess to murders they
didn't commit than have anything to do with you.
Irony - Hurley lied to the police.
Island - 1954
Wow, "Jones" sure is quick to chop off people's hands.
Is there a surplus of beautiful women on the Island? I think "Jones"
has issues.
John Locke - Man of Action! Thrower of rocks and knives!!
Sawyer, take somebody's shoes!
L.A. - Spooky Lab/Church
Faith (Church) and Science (Basement Lab)
Ms. Hawking uses a
Foucault pendulum
and an Apple III Monitor.
The actual computer looks more like one of the Apple II variants.
Lies (Just the outright ones, Not Telling the Whole Truth could be
another list)
Faraday lied about what he did at the Swan station.
Hurley will probably never pay Sayid back like he promised.
Hurley lies to the convenience store clerk - a lot.
Jack lies to Ben aboconvenienceut intending to throw out his pills.
Hurley's Dad lies to the police.
Frogurt lies about where the non-existent knife is.
Hurley's Dad deceives the police by hiding Sayid in the back of
his SUV.
It's hard to say what, but Sun must have lied about something
to Kate.
Hurley lied to his mother about not knowing anyone who would want
to hurt him.
I'm going to count Ben telling Hurley that he "would never have
to lie again" as exaggeration. I'm interpreting him as meaning Hurley
would never have to lie about what happened on the Island again.
Hurley lies to the police about killing people.
The Others are really vicious in 1954.
Why did they open fire on the Losties? If they had watched them for any length
of time they would have known that they weren't associated with the Army.
They could have easily grabbed Miles for questioning when he was off by himself.
So either they had just come upon the Losties and immediately decided to attack
or they knew the Losties weren't the enemy and attacked anyway.
And what about Widmore beginning his questioning by chopping off hands?
His questions indicate that he knows they aren't Army, why does he think that
cutting off somebody's hand is justified?
Contrast the Other's
behavior with the lack of overt hostility they showed the season 1-4 survivors.
Did the 2004 Others not wipe out the Losties because they knew some of them
would have to time travel to the past?
Locke killed an Other in 1954 - he committed the same crime they convicted
Juliet for.
Let's assume that the O6 need to return to the Island because their leaving
creates a "bad" future timeline - They need to do something on the Island that
creates the past we have. What part could Locke's body have in insuring the
past happens correctly? My head hurts.
Oh, oh...I'll bet that when the O6 do return to the Island they join in the
time skipping. Then they'll have to do something in the past. As "Jughead"
showed us, the corollary to Rule#1 (if it didn't happen it can't happen) is
that if it did happen it has to happen - example: Locke telling Richard
his name before Locke was born and Faraday telling the Others to bury the bomb.
Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh - but for this to work it means that the O6 were
"supposed" to time travel to the past in the future that would have happened
if Charlie hadn't contacted Penny and turned off the Looking Glass. But in
that future Ben wouldn't need to turn the FDW and set off the time travelling.
Or would he?
Not my Theory: Did time travelers rescue Locke, Eko and Desmond from
the Swan implosion?
Land of the Dead, by Thomas Harlan will finally see print in August 2009:
"It's a small change in our history: Imagine that the Japanese made contact
with the Aztec Empire. Instead of small-pox and Christianity, they brought
an Imperial alliance, samurai ethics, and technology. By the time of these
books, the Emperor in Mexico City rules not just the entire planet Earth,
but a growing interplanetary Empire. But the Galaxy is not a hospitable
place, and there are other powers, both new and very, very old, who would
stop the spread of the power in Anuhuac.
A weapon of the Old Ones, from the
time of the First Sun, has been found in a region of space. It must be
investigated, then tamed or destroyed to keep it from the hands of opposing
powers. Gretchen Anderssen, freelance archaeologist and specialist in First
Sun artifacts, has been hired by her old mentor Green Hummingbird, agent of
the Mirror Service, to join him in the study. They will be joined by old
friends, and some old enemies as well."
Tor Hardcover
ISBN-13: 978-0-7653-1204-4
ISBN-10: 0-7653-1204-2
$25.95
$28.95 Canadian
51/2" x 81/4" / 384 pages
Zen/Aztec mysticism in the service of covert black ops, kick-ass space battles,
sensawunda alien tech, gunfights, twisted yet fully realized
and plausible alternative history...I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl.
"The feed being requested cannot be found." - That's funny, I was reading it just 2
seconds ago. Google Reader seems to have a bunch of small problems, like logging
you out at random intervals and the inability to delete folders. I find myself
constantly logging in and out after it freezes. Bloglines never had these problems,
but their free email accounts no longer receive mail and the word on the interwebs
is that they aren't long for this world.
I wonder if Google will be willing to spend the
money to make Reader a finished product, since they own the world and have no competition.
"Following the airing of "Because
You Left", many fans attributed Locke's limping when he and Boone found the Beechcraft in "Deus Ex
Machina" to an assumed "phantom pain" that had somehow temporarily
superimposed itself onto past/future Locke via time travel, caused by Ethan shooting a time-jumping Locke
in the leg just as Locke was about to climb up to the newly crashed Beechcraft
in "Because You Left". This
theory ignores the specifics of Locke's problems in "Deus Ex Machina", however: There, he got hit
in the leg (the same one Ethan would shoot him in) by a piece of shrapnel from a
broken trebuchet, which caused him to realize that he was losing his feeling in
both legs (the piece of shrapnel was not the cause, but an
indicator of the problem). On the way to the Beechcraft, Locke's legs -
both of them - eventually failed altogether (shortly before that, Boone
specifically pointed out that Locke was limping on the other leg, which
was not hit by the shrapnel), until Boone fell to his death. None of this
bears any resemblance to what Locke was going through after Ethan shot him in
the leg beyond a very cursory glance.
"
"Apophenia is the perception of patterns, or connections, where
in fact none exist. Most psychologists agree that this condition exists in
everyone, to some degree; it is a bias of the human mind. "
I still like the idea of memories being transfered between a time-traveler and
their "normal" existence.
