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Lost Ep #604 "The Substitute"

Index:

Terms:

  • T1: The timeline where flight 815 crashed on the Island.
  • T2: The "flash-sideways" timeline where the Losties continue on to LA and the Island is underwater.
  • Jack2, Kate2, Claire2. etc2: Characters in T2. T1 characters have no suffix.
  • Flocke: The impersonation of Locke, presumably by the Man in Black, aka Esau, Jacob's Nemesis, The Smoke Monster.

Scene By Scene

All dialogue from the Lostpedia Transcript

-T2 LA Suburb-
  • License plate number of Locke2's van: 3PCI068
  • Locke2 took a leap of faith off the van.
  • T1 unmarried single Locke wouldn't have laughed at being stranded on the lawn and doused by sprinklers.
  • Locke loved the rain on the Island.
  • Where did Locke2 meet Helen2? T1 Locke met Helen at an anger management class he was taking because his dad conned him out of his kidney.
  • Locke2 gets along with his father, Anthony Cooper2, which strongly suggests that AC2 didn't con Locke2 out a kidney or push him out of an eighth-story window.
  • This would also mean that Locke2 is paralyzed for another reason.
  • Black and White (with a little Grey area) Coffee Cup.
  • "Lost Luggage" LOL
-T1 Island- -T2 Box Company- -T1 Flocke & Richard-
  • Flocke deliberately hit Richard in the throat to prevent him from speaking. What didn't he want him to say?
  • RICHARD: "What do you want?"
    FLOCKE: "What I've always wanted. For you to come with me."

    Flocke is probably just flattering him, but Richard does have some value.
  • RICHARD: "Why do you look like John Locke?"
    FLOCKE: "I knew he'd get me access to Jacob. Because John's a candidate. Or at least he was a candidate..."
    RICHARD: "What do you mean? What do you mean a candidate?"
    FLOCKE: "Didn't Jacob tell you any of this?"
    RICHARD: "Any of what?"
    FLOCKE: "Oh, Richard... I'm sorry. You mean, you've been doing everything he told you all this time and he never said why?"
    [Richard does not reply]
    FLOCKE: "I would never have done that to you. I would never have kept you in the dark."
    RICHARD: "And what would you have done?"
    FLOCKE: "I would have treated you with respect. Come with me... and I promise I will tell you everything."
    RICHARD: "No."
    FLOCKE: "Are you sure about that, Richard? Because people seldom get a second chance..."
    RICHARD: "I'm not going anywhere with you."
    FLOCKE: "Alright."
    [Locke sees a blond boy with bloodied arms standing in the jungle ... ]"
    RICHARD: "What?"
    FLOCKE: "I'll be seeing you, Richard. Sooner than you think."
    [FLocke walks into the jungle]
  • Flocke said Locke was a Candidate, which gave him access to Jacob. Richard didn't know about Locke's candidacy or the concept of candidacy, so there was or is something other than Richard that controlled access to Jacob.
  • Flocke promises answers.
  • I'm unsure whether Richard couldn't see the blond boy or if the boy was simply gone when he turned around.
  • Flocke attempted to recruit Richard, but let him live once he refused. Is is against "The Rules" for Flocke to kill Richard? It's possible that Flocke/Smokey can't kill people unless they've been "judged" or in self-defense. Of course now that I think about it, "self-defense" is a pretty murky concept when one is bulletproof.
-T1 Statue-
  • Ben tells the truth about everything except for the part about him killing Jacob.
  • Ilana collected some of Jacob's ashes.
  • First instance of Ilana showing knowledge of Flocke: "He's recruiting".
-T1 Dharma Barracks-
  • Search and Destroy, by The Stooges:

    I'm a street walking cheetah
    with a heart full of napalm
    I'm a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb
    I am a world's forgotten boy
    The one who searches and destroys
    Honey gotta help me please
    Somebody gotta save my soul
    Baby detonates for me
    Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology!
    Ain't got time to make no apology
    Soul radiation in the dead of night
    Love in the middle of a fire fight
    Honey gotta strike me blind
    Somebody gotta save my soul
    Baby penetrates my mind
    And I'm the world's forgotten boy
    The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy
    And honey I'm the world's forgotten boy
    The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy
    Forgotten boy, forgotten boy
    Forgotten boy said
    hey forgotten boy

    lyrics source

    Quite possibly the best use of pop-music in the entire series.
  • Stooge: " One who allows oneself to be used for another's profit or advantage; a puppet."
  • I can see Sawyer thinking, "great, another sonofabitch who's supposed to be dead but is still walking around."
  • Flocke tasted the booze but did not drink. I'm betting we never see him eat or drink.
  • Even drunk Sawyer could see through Flocke.
  • LOCKE: "This isn't your house, James." - This mirrors Locke2 telling Jack2 that the airline didn't lose his father.
  • Flocke promised answers again.
  • SAWYER: "I'm on this island because my plane crashed. Because my raft blew up. Because the helicopter I was on was ridin' one too heavy."
    Coincidence, Fate, or Enemy Action?
-T2 Box Company Parking Lot-
  • Hurley2's luck: Locke2's lift doesn't even touch his Hummer.
  • How the hell did Hurley2 even get out of his Hummer?
  • There's a little polar bear statue in Locke2's box
-T1 Outside Statue-
  • The crab on dead Locke's head was a nice (creepy) touch.
  • It's interesting that both Lapidus and Sun were packing heat.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer-
  • Flocke was surprised that Sawyer can see the blond kid.
  • BOY: "You know the rules. You can't kill him."
  • Can't kill who? Sawyer?
  • Is this a rule that can't be broken or one that shouldn't? If it can't be broken, why remind Flocke? If the rule can be broken, is there a penalty, or are the rules based merely on agreement? Or is the boy's warning to Flocke just a storytelling device to introduce the rule?
  • FLOCKE: "Don't tell me what I can't do!"
  • Is Locke's personality beginning to manifest itself in Flocke? Flocke has shown a liking for machetes similar to Locke's.
  • Richard and Sawyer's conversation didn't tell us much except that Richard is scared shitless of Flocke. Whether Richard is correct in his low opinion of Flocke's veracity and motives remains to be seem. Me, I'm with Sawyer: get some answers. Even lies can be informative.
  • "I enjoyed a brief interactivity with LOST this week; when Locke was faced with a stuck chair lift at the beginning, I yelled out "JUMP IT!!!!" seconds before he attempted that very thing. I was highly amused, and tried it later on when Fake Locke was chasing the Island Boy. I yelled "why are you running?!? you're not human!!! change into smoke and GET HIM!!!"

    It didn't work."

    Source: The CDP (comments)
  • "What Kid?" Uh, the one you asked if I could see? AWKWARD
-T2 Temp Agency-
  • In T1 Locke2's interviewer was hired by Hurley's father to pose as a tarot reader.
  • In T2, Rose2 works for a company Hurley2 owns.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer-
  • Flocke said "Of Mice and Men" was before his time.
  • SAWYER: "What are you?"
    FLOCKE: "What I am is trapped. And I've been trapped for so long that I don't even remember what it feels like to be free. Maybe you can understand that. But before I was trapped, I was a man, James. Just like you."
    SAWYER: "I'm havin' a hard time believin' that..."
    FLOCKE: "You can believe whatever you want, that's the truth. I know what it's like to feel joy... to feel pain, anger, fear... to experience betrayal. I know what it's like to lose someone you love. So if you wanna shoot me, shoot me. But you're so close, James. It would be such a shame to turn back now."

    That's a pretty good speech. It may even be true.
  • I think one reason Sawyer didn't shoot Flocke is because he believes there's a good chance it won't work.
-T1 Burying Locke-
  • BEN: "Why did you have to bring him [Locke's body] to the statue in the first place?"
    ILANA: "Because the people there need to see the face of what they're up against."
    BEN: "And whats to stop what they're up against from changing his face?"
    ILANA: "He can't; not anymore. Hes stuck this way."

    I've got a possible problem with what Ilana knows and doesn't know:

    • She knows somehow that Flocke is recruiting.
    • She knows somehow that Flocke can't impersonate a dead person other than Locke.
    • How is it that she does NOT KNOW that Flocke couldn't have killed Jacob? I hope she didn't believe Ben and is just stringing him along until they get to the Temple.
  • When did Ilana realize that resurrected Locke was the MIB and why didn't Richard or Ben?
  • Loved Ben's eulogy. I think he may actually feel guilty.
  • If Locke was the new leader of the Others, will Ben's confession that he murdered him get him in trouble?
-T2 Locke2's House-
  • Every episode this season so far there's been a mirror scene. Jack2 in the airplane bathroom, Kate2 in the repair shop bathroom and now Locke2 in his bathroom. Locke2's scene is the first where the character doesn't at themselves in the mirror; because T1 Locke is dead?
  • "Oh honey, you travel with a case full of knives, how sweet"
  • Unlike T1 Locke, Locke2 decides to accept his paralysis and stop fantasizing that he could be some special person leading an exotic exciting life. Now all he has to do is stay away from ocean trips.
-T1 Flocke & Sawyer, Cliffs-
  • How are they going to get out of that cave?
-T2 High School-
  • Evil genius and master manipulator Ben Linus is a passive-aggressive european history teacher.
  • But how can Ben be alive? He was wounded and at the Temple when the Losties lit off Jughead and sunk the Island, wasn't he? Except that this requires that flight 815 crashed with Sayid on board so that Sayid travell back to 1977 and shoot Ben, which didn't happen. Welcome to the paradoxical nature of the T2 timeline, if T2 depends on T1.
-T1 Jacob's Cave-

Questions/Theories/Hairbrain Predictions

  • You know what this episode was missing? Tom Berenger
  • I'm getting a feeling that we won't get many answers from the Others. If Richard doesn't have the inside scoop, who does?
  • At first I thought the blond boy was 2 people, the first bloody one younger than the second. But Lostpedia says it was the same actor both times.
  • Casting call for the blond boy:
    "Teenage boy, caucasian, 12-14. Dirty blond hair. Wise beyond his years. He's got intense, searching eyes. He's dealt with a horrible family accident. Even at a young age, he has been put in charge of something very important, and it weighs heavily on his shoulders."
  • Why did Jacob visit Kate as a child but not write her name in the cave? Let's put it this way: He's been on that damn Island for hundreds of years with only a homicidal pillar of black smoke for company.
  • 4 - Locke
    8 - Reyes
    15 - Ford
    16 - Jarrah
    23 - Shephard
    42 - Kwon
  • I'm not buying that Jacob gets people to come to the Island by influencing ONE choice they make, usually in childhood. That would be like making a 10 dimensional bank-shot off thousands of cushions.
  • The numbers may have started with Jacob's Cave list, but why to they keep showing up?
  • Notice how the Cave numbers are counting down? The current crop of shanghaied dupes are the last ones unless Jacob starts over with larger numbers
  • Parallels between Jacob/MIB and the Hatch by CruzaderJC
  • ..........................................
    You think we look pretty good together
    You think my shoes are made of leather

    But I'm a substitute for another guy
    I look pretty tall but my heels are high
    The simple things you see are all complicated
    I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated, yeah
    Substitute your lies for fact
    I can see right through your plastic mac
    I look all white, but my dad was black
    My fine looking suit is really made out of sack

    I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth
    The north side of my town faced east, and the east was facing south
    And now you dare to look me in the eye
    Those crocodile tears are what you cry
    It's a genuine problem, you won't try
    To work it out at all you just pass it by, pass it by

    Substitute me for him
    Substitute my coke for gin
    Substitute you for my mum
    At least I'll get my washing done

    The Who: Substitute lyrics
    .........................................
  • Do the Jacob's Ladders lead to Jacob's Cave, like the Monster says? Are the names those of the people Jacob wanted to bring to the Island? Or are they just the Monster's list of each of Jacob's players that he's managed somehow to capture? I think it must be the Monster's cave, because Juliet's name is crossed out, and Jacob was quite dead before she finally kicked it. Or maybe it was until just recently a shared space, a free zone where both had equal rights.

    Source: Fishbiscuitland
  • Theory: Jacob needed Ajira flight 316 to bring back the Oceanic 6 (-Aaron) as much as the MIB needed it to bring Locke's body and Ben.
  • Symbols of confinement:
    • Locke2 in wheelchair
    • Locke2 stuck on van lift
    • Locke2 in bathtub
    • Locke2's cubicle
    • Hurley2 blocking Locke2's van
    • Richard wrapped in tarp
    • Sawyer inside house, drinking behind bed
    • Flocke describing himself as "trapped"
    • Locke's grave
    • Cave
    • Flocke stuck impersonating Locke
  • Every time I hear the line "The time for questions is over" in a promo I get the impression "they" are telling me to shut up.
  • Why does the Island need protecting? Sure, the Island is a strange and unique place, but is it a good place?
    • Pro: Undependable healing effect
    • Con: Pregnant women die in childbirth
    • Homicidal cultists
    • Malevolent smoke monsters
    • Manipulative, kidnapping, murderous blond demi-god
    • Booby-trap laying crazy women
    • Nuclear Weapon
    • Chemical Weapon
    • Ben Linus

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