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Lost Ep #603 - What Kate Does

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Source: Fuckyeahlost!

Index:

Scene By Scene
Theories/Questions
Recaps
Miscellaneous

Terms:

T1: The timeline where flight 815 crashed on the Island.
T2: The "flash-sideways" timeline where the Losties continue on to LA and the Island is underwater.
Jack2, Kate2, Claire2. etc2: Characters in T2. T1 characters have no suffix.
Flocke: The impersonation of Locke, presumably by the Man in Black, aka Esau, Jacob's Nemesis, The Smoke Monster.

Scene By Scene

T1 Temple:

The camera focused on Lennon's bare feet.
In " ...And Found", Eko and Jin see some people, possibly Others, walk past them in the jungle [All Barefooted - Utility Fog]. One of the group appears to be a child, and is dragging with him a teddy bear tied to some rope. The bear resembles Zach's, though Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse denied the similarity on the Official Lost podcast.

Source: Lostpedia
Is Dogen inside a maze? Lennon looked behind like he was worried about being followed.
Dogen using a manual typewriter.

T2 LAX:

Flash of connection between Kate2 and Jack2?
First sign that Claire2 is pregnant.

T1 Temple:

Of course it moves the plot along, but why bring Sayid out into the courtyard? He was dead 5 minutes ago, let the man rest.
Seeing his healed wound freaks Sayid out a little.
"Sayid seemed more than a little confused after his apparent resurrection. He was totally blanked out - his mind resetting to the moment he got shot. Jack makes no bones about the fact that he died, and the temple-dwellers seem to understand this too. If Sayid had been healed by the water, he would've been fine, but that's not what happened. Somehow Sayid has returned from the dead, and in the eyes of Dogen's people, that presents a very big problem.

Did Sayid spend some time at the "in-between" place mentioned in the Eko-centric episode entitled "?" Totally. Just as Charlotte Malkin drowned and later came back to life, it seems Sayid might've dipped into this realm for a few minutes himself. It should be interesting if he regains memories of being in that place, and can somehow talk about it the way Charlotte told Eko of seeing his brother, Yemi. Sayid's mention of the last thing he remembered also seemed similar to Locke's words when he woke up on the beach after the Ajira flight: "I remember dying".

Sawyer's line about Sayid coming back because he was a torturer and child-killer was him channeling his anger at what happened to Juliet. Yet in a very 'only the good die young moment', it reminded us of some Purgatory-like rules: the greater the sin, the more the suffering. Perhaps Sawyer has it all backward. Maybe Juliet was allowed to pass on because she'd reconciled herself and made peace with her past. Sayid on the other hand, had drifted into unconsciousness knowing and believing he'd end up in a very terrible place. That place? The island, all over again. If it does turn out to be a place of suffering, it would make sense that the island isn't done with him yet - the same way it wasn't done with Michael."

Source: Vozzek69
"Nothing to worry about" my ass.
Lennon: "Oh, I'm sorry, we need to talk to him alone. Just a few questions..."
Jack: "You have a few questions" Well, so do we. I mean let's start with, who are you? Why are you holding us here? You--"
Dogen: [speaks Japanese] "Kono otoko wo damarasero" (この男を黙らせろ―Let this man shut up.)
Lennon: "Once we've spoken to Mr. Jarrah we will be more than happy to tell you everything you want to know."
Jack: "Something tells me... that you're not gonna be happy to tell us anything."
One thing that really stood out this episode is the number of questions the Losties asked, in stark contrast to seasons past.

And as we will see, Lennon is lying about about telling the Losties everything they want to know.
When the Japanese Other, who we now know is named Dogen, sees Hurley, Jack and Miles with Sayid in the Temple courtyard, he says, "What are you doing?" with a phrasing (attomari suru) that could also mean "What are you becoming?" Then, we Jack starts asking questions, Dogen says (I think), "Don?t say anything." Just before the scuffle, he says, "Take him."

source: Kulturblog
Jack was pulling an interesting move on the big Other who tried to grab him.
Where did Sawyer get the gun?
Dogen wants Sawyer to stay bad enough to speak English and say "please". I wonder if we'll ever see Jacob's note from the guitar case?

T1 Temple-After the break:

I didn't see Sawyer actually shoot anyone, but in the background two Others carried away a wounded Other.
Shouting "Calm down, Everybody calm down!!" might work better without the sticking of pistols in faces.
The theme for this show is "Running Away and Going Back".

T2 Auto Repair Shop:

At first I thought Kate2 was going to try to trade the cab for another car at a chop-shop.
The mechanic was played by Jeff Kober. You can't have a Sci-Fi show without him - he's been on Earth 2, Buffy (2 roles), X-Files, Star Trek Voyager, Charmed, Poltergeist, Star Trek Enterprise, and Supernatural among others.
Aaron had the same stuffed orca when Jack and Kate were living together in "Something Nice Back Home".
Another mirror, the first one was Jack2/Airplane bathroom.
My take: Kate2 didn't go back for Claire2, she went back for Aaron2, even she doesn't know it.

T1 Dogen and Sayid:

Dogen blew a powder, probably ash, over Sayid and closely observed something.
Dogen applied electrodes to Sayid's chest and shocked him.
Dogen burned Sayid's chest with a hot poker and again closely observed his reactions.
Dogen: [Japanese]"Yoshi kore de jyuubun da"(よしこれで十分だ―"All right.That's enough.)"Shiken ni tootta to omoe"(試験に通ったと思え―Think you pass the exam.)
Dogen's "diagnosis" of Sayid echoes Rousseau questioning Sayid in "Solitary".

T2 LA Bus Stop:

I got nothing.

T1 Jungle-Tracking Sawyer:

Kate asks questions.
I hope Aldo and Justin brought some ash.
Jin asks questions.
I'll Aldo some credit, when he doesn't answer questions he doesn't get all vague or ask a question back - he just refuses to answer.
Aldo got clocked by Kate in "Not In Portland"
Alex brings Sawyer and Kate to another part of the Hydra compound in the jungle. An Other named Aldo is sitting guard outside, reading Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time, and Alex approaches, claiming to have captured Kate and Sawyer. As they argue about "her dad" not wanting her to be there, Sawyer knocks him over and mocks him for falling for the "ol' Wookiee prisoner gag." Kate threatens to shoot Aldo in the knee (she tells Sawyer later that she wasn't bluffing), so he reveals that Karl is at the end of the hall in Room 23. Kate knocks him out and they break into the room, where Karl is strapped to a chair with an IV in his arm and LED glasses on his face. He is being forced to watch a video with strange flashing images, text, and sounds. Sawyer is momentarily entranced by the video but Kate snaps him out of it. They remove Karl from his chair, and Sawyer carries him out over his shoulder.
Kate was smarter than Aldo then, and she's smarter than him now.
What does Kate do? She escapes.

T1 Temple Spring/Dogen's Room:

It's odd that the Others had the Losties stay at the spring. I'd be worried that somebody might get the bright idea to drink the water or even slip and fall in. But I guess when you build a kick-ass set complete with running water you want to get your money's worth out of it.
Sayid references Han Solo's line, "They never even asked me any questions", after being tortured by Darth Vader.
I can't make out what book Lennon was reading.
"We were hoping you would come on your own" - first reference to choice/free will.
Oh yea: What was it that Dogen want to talk to about to Jack alone before Sayid came back to life? Or did we just need a little conflict to be dramatically interrupted by a resurrection?
"We didn't do anything to him" - Dude, you electrocuted him and burned him with a hot poker! Go ahead and argue that it was necessary, but don't deny it didn't happen.
Dogen describes Sayid's condition as "keigansarete shimatta," (a form of the verb keigan suru) which his translator says means "infected," saying there's no literal translation. This could be translated as "he has been turned into something." It could also mean "judged as being," which has interesting implications when you think about the Smoke Monster and its judgments.

Source: Kulturblog
"Because it won't work unless he takes it willingly and he won't take it willingly from us."
Pill as redemption: obvious guilt-trip/con game.
"The infection will spread" - in Sayid or too other people?

T1 Temple Spring:

"I remember being shot" - echoes Flock's "I remember dying."
Sayid trusts Jack

T1 Jungle:

Jin wants to find Sun.

T2 LA:

Adoptive mother losing her husband: Unknown force making sure Claire2 raises Aaron2?
The adoptive mother's name is "Lindsey Baskum", an anagram for "Used by Malkins", the psychic who got Claire to fly to LA.
If Kate2 hadn't returned would Claire2 have given birth at the bus stop?

T1 Dharma Barracks:

I got nothing.

T2 Hospital:

Man. Claire2 was just annoying.
Ethan2 was still kinda creepy, though not murderous or kidnappy.
Kate2 has a flash when Claire2 mentions Aaron's name.

T1 Dharma Dock:

Kate wants to find Claire and reunite her and Aaron.
Sawyer realizes he's partially to blame for Juliet dying. Here comes the guilt.
No Skate for you!

T1 Dogen's Office:

Dogen: "I was brought here, like everyone else.
Everyone? Were none of the Others born on the Island? Was Ben rebelling against something that had always happened? What about Ethan, Miles, and Charlotte?
Dogen implied that he was brought to the Island just like Jack was. This implies that Jack could become an Other as Dogen did.
"There isn't any time" - lame excuse.
Jack's not giving anybody any pills until he gets some goddamn ANSWERS. I know how you feel buddy.
I love that Jack took the pill. It's as if he said "I'll see your bullshit mind-games and raise you a I'm-batshit-crazy, your move".
How cool would it have been if Jack had palmed the pill and conned Dogen into believing he had swallowed it?
Dogen had to tell Jack something, otherwise Jack could just take the pill again.
Dogen said the pill is poison. He could be lying.

T2 Hospital

The date on the ultrasound is all screwed up. Just let it go.
The pattern on Claire2's hospital gown is an eight-sided "snowflake" - Dharma reference?
Kate in T1 also used the alias "Joan Hart".
Joan Hart in the movie Damien: Omen II discovered the identity of the 13-year-ol Antichrist. She got her eyes pecked out and run over by a truck. This doesn't mean Aaron is EVIL.
Is Kate innocent in T2? I seem to recall her admitting to killing her stepfather in T1 but in T2 she keeps asking people if they'll believe her if she says she's innocent. If she is innocent that would leave the question of who blew up her stepfather's apprentice.

T1 Dogen's Office:

At the end of the episode, Dogen tells Jack that Sayid has been "meisareta," a passive form of the verb "meisuru". The translator says this means "claimed," but a more literal translation would be "stamped, engraved or inscribed." Dogen explains that "there is a darkness growing in him," and tells Jack that the same thing happened to his sister, referring, we can only assume, to Claire (Jack's half-sister). How does Dogen know Claire, let alone that Claire is Jack's half-sister?

Source: Kulturblog
Jack learned that Claire was his half-sister at the funeral for Christian Shepard after the Oceanic 6 left the Island.

T1 Jungle Jin/Aldo/Justin

Who the hell brought bear-traps to the Island?

Questions/Theories/Hairbrain Predictions

So the "Sickness" finally reappeared. What did we learn about it this episode? Nothing firm. We don't know how it's caught, though near-death experiences might be involved. We only have Dogen's word that Sayid and Claire are infected, and the Others lie about things all the time. We only have the testimony of insane Rousseau, and a short time-travel scene with Jin to show that the French Team were infected - you could make a good case that Rousseau was infected and/or just nuts and the French Team were just trying to defend themselves. We don't know where the Dharma Vaccine fits into this at all.
Dogen's view that the Sickness is bad, and that "once it reaches his heart, everything your friend once was will be gone" could be one-sided or a lie. The Sickness could just make you immune to the Other's cultish brainwashing juju, and hence a threat.
Theory: Sayid failed Dogen's test by reacting normally to torture.
"Because it won't work unless he takes it willingly and he won't take it willingly from us." What does this mean? Sayid won't die if you force him to eat poison?
Is the whole torture/infected/pill/claire thing a test of Jack?
What about the psychic's warning that Aaron must not be "raised by another"? Is Aaron going to have to return to the Island? Or will Claire leave?
Were the visions of Claire warning Kate not to bring Aaron back to the Island done for MIB's benefit?
What happened on the Island 2004-2007 when all the major Losties were gone?
If the 2 timelines are equal in importance and "realness", why isn't T2 "bleeding through" to T1 the way T1 is into T2?
I figure there are 2 basic ways T1 and T2 can become 1 timeline:
(1) Merging: Everyone in the world ends up with 2 sets of memories? My Head Hurts.

(2) Destroy one timeline: Cue the Valenzetti equation.
This episode had lots of binding symbology: rings, handcuffs, Sayid's restraints
Theory: Flocke/MIB told the Others at the Statue: "I am very disappointed ... in all of you." What he's referring to is the Other's unquestioning servitude to Jacob. MIB wanted to kill Jacob to free himself from being a watchdog and he wants to free the Others.
The Losties have one advantage over the Others: They've seen Star Wars

Recaps

Kate, Interrupted, by Fishbiscuitland
Things I Noticed - "What Kate Does" , by Vozzek69
Risk: A Cultural Thesis for LOST 6.03 “What Kate Does”, by Pearson Moore
"LOST tells us if we do not form bonds like those of Jack and Sayid, if we do not respect, if we do not have compassion, we will likely end up in Widmore’s camp, wearing the black uniform of Stuart Radzinsky, ready at a moment’s notice to enforce our desires over the needs, even over the lives of others. Or we may end up in the MIB’s camp, seeing in law, discipline, and judgment the pinnacle of human perfection. Or we may end up in the dreamer’s camp–with Jacob, coming to believe that there are no laws, save the seeking after perfection.

LOST is about a world gone awry. The Island is split between the ungrounded followers of Jacob, the harsh law imposed by the MIB, and the occasional self-serving visitors like Charles Widmore and the Dharma Initiative.

It has become a game."
Impartial Risk: Cultural Musings on the Resurrection of John Locke, by Pearson Moore
'Lost' recap: Staying Connected, by Jeff Jensen (Entertainment Weekly)
S6Ep3 - What Kate Does, by Long Live Locke
Initial Thoughts: What Kate Does, by Gitsie Girl
6 X 03: What Kate Does, by Gitsie Girl
My REVIEWS - EPisode 6x03- WHat hate DOES!!, by ThEmIsFiTiShErE
Thoughts on What Kate Does... , by Eye M Sick
Lost Recap 6×03: What Kate Does, by The Ack Attack!
'Lost' Dueling Analysis: 'What Kate Does', by Celebritology
Lost: Get down with the sickness, by Tubular
Key Points from "What Kate Does", by Filmfodder
'Lost': Course Corrections for 'What Kate Does', by Zap 2 Lost
The Great 'Lost' Debate: How will 'it worked' work?, by Zap 2 Lost
LOST: “What Kate Does”, by Kulturblog
The French Connection - “What Kate Does” Analysis, by Chris Kirkman
This Week's Ongoing Lost Post Greatest Hits!!!, by The Ack Attack!

Miscellaneous

The Double-Edged Sword Of Devotion: 'Chuck' Vs. The Entitled Fan Base

Via Fishbiscuitland

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