Locke: Ben said to not trust you!
Widmore: BENJAMIN?? If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he'd be Pralines and Dick!
Locke: ...
Widmore: Come onnnn, want to be my new BFF?
from The Ack Attack!
("JACK YOU DONT UNDERSTAND BEN LEFT AND SPUN THIS WHEEL AND SENT THE ISLAND THROUGH TIME AND EVERYONES IN TROUBLE AND EVERYONES GOT BLOODY NOSES AND I HAVE TO SAVE EVERYBODY BY BRINGING EVERYONE BACK SO I BROKE MY LEG AND SPUN THE WHEEL AND THEN WIDMORE GAVE ME A PASSPORT AND THE GUY FROM FRINGE TO DRIVE ME AROUND BUT THEN HE GOT SHOT TEN TIMES AND YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME!")
From C.D.P.
- Caesar is in Ben's office in the Hydra Station
-
Life Magazine - dated April 15, 1954
Cover story: "Color Pictures of Hydrogen Test" - Jughead reference
- Skull on desk
- Daniels notes/ Maps:
- Daniel's time diagram
- Copy of Daniel's lab notes - with the settings that mentally time-travelling Desmond told Faraday visible.
- 5x07: Daniel Faraday's Journal and Map
- Ben has shotguns everywhere, piano benches, under desks.
- Caesar seems to have a Hispanic accent, not bad for French actor.
- Obi Wan Kenobi
- Lapidus left with a woman, Sun or Flight Attendant
- Mango mirrors Orange from pilot episode
- "I remember dying" - Does Locke only tell the truth this episode? He lies to Walt by omission about Michael.
- When and Where Are the 316r's?
- Teleporting makes you puke.
- Widmore doesn't send the A-Team, the chuckleheads almost run over Locke.
- Has Widmore always known about Tunisia being an exit point? Were the two guys who greeted Ben Widmore minions?
- Don't get sick in rural Tunisia.
- Abaddon got there quick. Locke's been off-Island for less than 24 hours/
- Widmore and Locke:
The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham - Lostpedia Transcript"Widmore: "They're not the "Others" to me. They're my people. We protected the Island peacefully for more than three decades. But then I was exiled... by him... just as you were. "
Widmore: [Leaning in] "Because there's a war coming, John. And if you're not back on the Island when that happens, the wrong side is going to win."
Widmore: "I'm deeply invested in the future of the Island, John. So, yes, I've been watching them. I wouldn't mention I'm involved in this. I can't imagine what they think of me, having listened to Benjamin's lies."
Locke: "How do I know that you're not the one who's lying?"
Widmore: "I haven't tried to kill you. Would you say the same for him?"
Widmore: [Chuckles] "You still don't trust me."
Locke: "You sent a team of killers and a boatload of C-4 to the Island. That... doesn't exactly scream "trust.""
Widmore: "I needed Linus removed... so it could be your time."
Locke: "Right."
Widmore: "The Island needs you, John. It has for a long time."
Locke: "What makes you think I'm so special?"
Widmore: "Because you are."
- If Widmore is telling the truth and was 17 in 1954 and was exiled 30 years later, that would be in 1984.
- Penny is older than 24, so she was born while Widmore was leader of the Others and presumably on the Island. Was Penny born on the Island, or adopted?
- John actually has the sense not to tell Widmore everything.
- Locke told the 06 to lie.
- Someone on the island must be reporting back to Widmore. How else
would he know that Ben tried to kill Locke?
From Gitsie Girl - Widmore gave Locke the name Jeremy Bentham. This is the first sign he has any sense of humor.
- Locke's Passport
- Shepherds crossing the road - symbolic of Locke shepharding the O6.
- Wheelchair - not a good omen
- They screwed up the continuity on the sheep. They were crossing from right to left, but when the Range Rover drove away they were back on the right side heading away. Or this is evidence of skipping between mirror universes.
Continuity ErrorsWidmore's surveillance photo of Sayid shows Sayid working on the exact same house in the exact same spot he is still working on when Locke comes to see him. Considering the time it takes Locke to travel from Tunisia to Santo Domingo, Sayid should have at least made some progress.
- Sayid has picked up Spanish.
- Sayid is hammer slinging for "Build Our World".
- Why did Sayid stop working for Ben?
- Locke has no good argument for returning. Does he just assume that everyone else shares his belief?
- Abaddon: "I'll give you two some privacy" - mirrors Ben on flight 316
Continuity ErrorsIn "There's No Place Like Home, Parts 2 & 3" Walt tells Hurley that he was visited by Jeremy Bentham. However, when Locke meets Walt in New York City, he never mentions that he is travelling under the name Jeremy Bentham. Unless there was another off-Island meeting between Walt and Locke, this is a continuity error. Jack and Kate also refer to Bentham, despite the fact that we never see Locke introduce himself this way, nor would he need to.
- Hugo's making a
painting of the Great Sphinx of Giza.
The word sphinx comes from the Greek Σφίγξ, apparently from the verb σφίγγω (sphíng), meaning "to strangle". This name may be derived from the fact that the hunters for a pride of lions are the lionesses, and kill their prey by strangulation, biting the throat of prey and holding them down until they die. The word sphincter derives from the same root.
Yea, the greek characters are screwed up. Go to Wikipedia, they're fine there - Hugo thinks Locke is another dead visitor.
- Hugo: "Wait, What?" - My favorite phrase this month.
- Hugo thinks about why the other O6 won't return before he thinks of himself.
- Abaddon: "We're all in serious trouble" - Go ahead John, ASK HIM - what kind of trouble?
- Abaddon: "I get people to where they need to get to"
- Kate: "Everyone on the Island is going to die if I don't go back" - Locke is coming up with slightly better arguments.
- Kate thinks he's obsessed. It doesn't help that he is.
- Is Helen really dead or is her tombstone a con?
- Abaddon: "Is it inevitable or is it a choice?"
- Why did Widmore have only one man watching out for Locke? He can certainly afford better.
- Locke's car was hit on both sides - Ben vs Widmore symbolism?
- 3 Santas/Santos: Santo Domingo, Santa Rosa, Santa Monica
- Jack is so stoned. I think he's already been getting visits from Christian.
- Locke actually offers proof - Christian's name. I don't think Jack ever mentioned seeing his father alive on the Island or his name. In "White Rabbit" he told Locke he had seen someone who couldn't be on the Island, but not who - or his name.
- Jack: "We were never important"
Continuity ErrorsIn "There's No Place Like Home, Parts 2 & 3", Jack stated that Locke had
a) told him Ben was off the island,
b) that "some very bad things happened" after Jack left the island,
c) that those bad things were Jack's fault because he left,
d) that the only way he could protect Kate and Aaron was by returning to the island, and
e) that if Jack and the rest of the Oceanic Six didn't return to the island, the people they left behind would die.Locke said none of those things. Unless there was another off-island meeting between Jack and Locke, this is a continuity error.
- We still don't know how Hawking got Locke's note.
- Stain on ceiling mirrors Swan ceiling stain (Radinsky's suicide by shotgun - If Inman was telling the truth)
- Suicide gear provided by Angel Hardware.
- Locke has 5 toes
- Isn't it nice that everyone is keeping everyone safe.
- Here we go again with the "special/important" line.
- Ben's set dressing of a suicide is implausible. You try standing a limp, dead person straight up on a shaky table and slipping a noose around his neck. And the ligature mark on Locke's neck won't match a hanging, the angle will be wrong and there won't be any mark on the back of his neck. Locke's body will also be missing the likely marks left by frantically clawing at the noose. And Ben's cleanup will have removed a lot of fingerprints that are supposed to be there. Can Ben be certain that Locke has never been fingerprinted? What will the Canadian consulate say when they're informed their citizen Jeremy Bentham is dead? Did Ben take the cell phone that has Widmore on speed dial?
- Locke's death by strangulation mirrors his father being killed by Sawyer.
- Ben: "I'll miss you john, I really will" - Indicates Ben is unaware that Locke will be resurrected.
- Referenced by
Tubular for "316", but resonates stronger for this episode:
Oh hello
Smiths - A Rush & A Push & The Land Is Ours
I am the ghost of troubled joe
Hung by his pretty white neck
Some eighteen months ago
I travelled to a mystical time zone
And I missed my bed
And I soon came home
They said :
There's too much caffeine
In your bloodstream
And a lack of real spice
In your life
I said :
Leave me alone
Because Im alright, dad
Surprised to still
Be on my own...
Oh, but dont mention love
I'd hate the strain of the pain again
A rush and a push and the land that
We stand on is ours
It has been before
So it shall be again
And people who are uglier than you and i
They take what they need, and just leave - I love Locke and Caesars's exchange - Locke volunteers information, Caesar actually cares about what's going on, and asks direct questions - it's the all new resurrected Lost.
- Caesar: "And this really big guy with curly hair... was gone, man. I mean, literally gone." - I bet Locke has a inkling that Hugo was on flight 316.
- If Locke becomes leader of the Others, how will he deal with the survivors of flight 316?
- I think Widmore was working against Locke.
- "We protected the Island peacefully for more than three decades."
This from a man who considered cutting Juliet's hand off the proper way to begin a conversation. Widmore was also in charge of the flaming arrow attack on the obviously non-Army 1954 Losties. And while we're learning that Other internal politics are complicated, as far as we know Widmore was the leader of the Others when they slaughtered the Dharma Initiative.
- "I haven't tried to kill you"
Widmore is lying. He has tried to kill Locke, and everyone else on the Island:
Keamy: "'Cause he's a very smart man, and if Linus knows that we're gonna torch the Island, there's only one place that he can go." - "Cabin Fever"
This is Martin Keamy
the leader of the mercenary team.
He was hired by Charles Widmore
to capture Ben and kill everyone on the island.
There's No Place Like Home, Part 1-Enhanced transcript - Widmore: "I needed Linus removed... so it could be your time."
Widmore: "That island's mine, Benjamin. It always was. It will be again."
Charles Widmore is not about to relinquish his claim to the Island to a former Regional Collections Supervisor for a box company. -
JEREMY BENTHAM IS THE ANTI-JOHN LOCKE
Jeremy Bentham was a 18th century English ethicist and founding father of legal positivism, which stands in opposition to natural law, which was promoted by...17th century English philosopher John Locke, one of the founding fathers of the so-called Age of Reason. Locke was a deist (i.e., a creator God) who believed that man had certain intrinsic, unalienable rights; his philosophy was capable of integrating science and faith. Bentham said: BWA-HAHAAH! He thought natural law was ''nonsense on stilts.'' Bentham is a very post-God thinker: He believed the only rights a man had were the rights society gave him.
Bentham was the opposite of Locke, his philosophical enemy.
- Putting Locke in a wheelchair is a good way to make him feel like shit.
- Abaddon: "Anything you need, Mr. Locke, you just let me know.
Anything. Anybody from your past you want me to look up for you?
The whole world thinks you're dead, Mr. Locke.
There must be somebody who'd be happy to see you."
Abaddon plants the idea of looking up Helen. And isn't it cheering to be told you're dead to the world? And there is no one who is happy to see him.
- Abaddon: "I take it you didn't invite him along.
That's 0-for-2, Mr. Locke. Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought you had
to bring everyone back."
Subtext: "You're fucking up, you're a loser".
- Abaddon: "You may wanna step up your game,
Mr. Locke, or we're all in serious trouble."
More "You're a loser", with added guilt. Plus Abaddon makes sure that Hugo can see him and get freaked out. Hugo is the only O6 member to meet with Abaddon.
- Abaddon: "No, I didn't. I'm sorry. [Sighs]
Three years is a long time. It's possible she got married, changed her name.
Maybe she moved out of state."
Abaddon is waiting till the end to play the Helen card
- And Helen is dead, or at least has a tombstone. The one person that might be happy to see Locke, who might give him some support and not run a con on him is forever out of reach.
- Abaddon: "Mr. Widmore told me Richard Alpert said that you were going
to die. So you tell me, John. Is that inevitable, or is it a choice?"
You know, I don't know what the hell this means. I do know that the subject is certain death or suicide, which is just plain depressing.
- Ben The Good vs Charles The Not-So-Good by Roland
Widmore's statements at the Tunisian hospital:
The name Widmore gives Locke:
Abaddon plays Locke:
- "We protected the Island peacefully for more than three decades."
- What was Ben's motive for killing Locke? Whatever it is, the fact that Locke
was supposed to get help from Mrs. Hawking was the crucial factor in Ben's
decision.
I have a real hard time coming up with a "good " reason for Ben strangling Locke. Ben would have to know about Richard or Christian telling Locke that he has to die or deduce from the mention of Hawking that a proxy for dead-body-Christian would be required. Then he might decide that since Locke was required to die, he might as well get it over with. Ben might also believe that a suicided Locke would be displeasing to the Island.
But there were no witnesses to Locke's conversations with Christian and Richard, and I don't even think Ben knows that Christian is anything but a corpse, so I think Ben lacked the knowledge to make an arguably ethical decision to kill Locke. But then why does Ben keep Locke's corpse around? Did Hawking tell him it was a necesary prop?
But evil Ben, that totally works. Once Ben knows that Locke was supposed to go to Hawking, he can infer that Locke must have been told by someone reliable, and that Hawking can get them back to Island. And if Locke is out of the picture, Ben becomes the new returner of the O6. Locke even gave Ben the leverage he needs to bring Sun back. If the O6 can return, then Ben will hitch a ride back with them.
Ben: "I'll miss you, John. I really will.": This suggests that Ben did not expect Locke to come back to life.
If Locke confronts Ben about his murder I know exactly what Ben will say: "But John, I was only helping you do what the Island wanted. I knew you'd come back, because your so fucking SPECIAL". What would be great is if Locke undercuts Ben by just acting saintly and accepting of Ben killing him, even thanking him. Just don't trust the little bastard.
- Did resurrected Locke create a time-loop by getting the information that he had to die to Richard in the past?
- Locke's resurrection - wow. Because Locke wasn't pseudo-dead from a medusa spider bite, or just mostly dead - he was all the way, completely dead. Bringing his corpse back to life without extreme nanotechnology would be a miracle - which makes me wonder if the new Locke shares something with some of the other walking dead that have appeared, like Yemi, Christian, or even Montand.
- Is Locke resurrected or reincarnated?
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